What is the Most Sturdy AR Lower ? ? ? ? ?

[GUNS-R-US]

No paperwork on upper, lowers easy to find around from individuals with the sucky economy.
$2,600 +/- vs. $4,000 +/- buys most of the scope.
0.5 MOA

I could be wrong, but I don't think I need magazine feed...single shot should be fast enough.  If I thought I wanted a mag I'd probably be thinking Barrett 99.  But then...I am still in the slobbering lust phase waiting on the Rock River LAR-8 varmint to come in along with paperwork to use the threaded 24" barrel coming with it.  All that MAIG talk where Bloomberg and BHO got together has me spooked early.   At least I know I can get the LAR-8 right now in the next week or so.

If the lap dog Holder (or some other Administration minion) starts spouting the Bloomberg mantra, I'll be grandfathered...I hope.  I'll also jump on that credit card and get the upper before I can think twice.  Come to find out...some guy about 20 miles west of here in Hominy sells the 416 machined brass bullets on Gunbroker...must be a sign.

The 99 is a single shot no mag. the 95 is mag feed bolt gun.

[Rastus]

The 99 is a single shot no mag. the 95 is mag feed bolt gun.

Still around $4k?

[GUNS-R-US]

No paperwork on upper, lowers easy to find around from individuals with the sucky economy.
$2,600 +/- vs. $4,000 +/- buys most of the scope.
0.5 MOA

I could be wrong, but I don't think I need magazine feed...single shot should be fast enough.  If I thought I wanted a mag I'd probably be thinking Barrett 99.  But then...I am still in the slobbering lust phase waiting on the Rock River LAR-8 varmint to come in along with paperwork to use the threaded 24" barrel coming with it.  All that MAIG talk where Bloomberg and BHO got together has me spooked early.   At least I know I can get the LAR-8 right now in the next week or so.

If the lap dog Holder (or some other Administration minion) starts spouting the Bloomberg mantra, I'll be grandfathered...I hope.  I'll also jump on that credit card and get the upper before I can think twice.  Come to find out...some guy about 20 miles west of here in Hominy sells the 416 machined brass bullets on Gunbroker...must be a sign.

I like your thinking though.

[Rastus]

I like your thinking though.

I have blind spot with the Barrett...I don't know what their moa performance is...but then again I'm only reading the interrnet page for the Tactilite too.  Tactilite says 0.5 moa with the right ammo...a real draw for me.

The 2,500 yards before transitioning into subsonic is appealing in the 416 as is the higher muzzle velocity at 3,250 fps.  I wonder what a 1,000 yard zero looks like at 1 mile.  If I get this thing I will be using it in local 1000 yard competitions.

[MikeBjerum]

$4,200 to $4,250 for rifle, case, scope and rings and bipod.

I was comparing that to $2,600 bare upper + lower + optics + bipod.

Just thinking there may not be a lot of difference price wise, but you make some valid other points as well.  I'm not trying to change your mind, but was wondering what I might be missing in the thought process.

My biggest hold back is that there is no where to shoot them up here, or I would have had one a few years back.  Now, if I were down south or in the wide open western Dakotas, MT or WY it would only be a matter of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 

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[Rastus]

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Just thinking there may not be a lot of difference price wise, but you make some valid other points as well.  I'm not trying to change your mind, but was wondering what I might be missing in the thought process.
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Change my mind, please!  That's why I posted here to refine my thought process.  I lean heavily on the individual transfer and no paperwork upper....and I do like saving a few coin as well.  The lower and guts won't be too much along with a bipod....it's the scope that scares me.

Any chance you'll get to come to the Pro-Am?

[fightingquaker13]

..it's the scope that scares me.

Very true. It would be a crime to put anything less than premium on that rifle. I truly envy you for having a 1000 yard range. I'm stuck with a 100 yard here. Its really not much fun with the AR. Shooting a .50 would be like driving a corvette in NYC traffic.
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[tombogan03884]

Very true. It would be a crime to put anything less than premium on that rifle. I truly envy you for having a 1000 yard range. I'm stuck with a 100 yard here. Its really not much fun with the AR. Shooting a .50 would be like driving a corvette in NYC traffic.
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You may not be going fast, but you look really cool doing it   

[billt]

Rastus,

If your looking for a .50 you might consider the Armalite AR-50. It is a complete rifle for right around $3,000.00. By the time you purchase the upper you linked to, ($2,200.00), add a decent lower, ($400.00), you will be close to what a AR-50 will run. The AR-50 has a good reputation among .50 BMG shooters. It will be much easier to sell if you should choose to do so. Also remember that scope mount set ups for a .50 aren't cheap, nor is shooting it. This stuff all starts adding up really fast once you commit yourself to buying it. This is my Bushmaster BA-50 I set up not that long ago.





Between rifle, scope, rings, mounts, case, and ammo, I've got right around $6,600.00+ in it. And I have yet to buy a single piece of reloading equipment. It's hard to justify that kind of expense for a rifle with such limited use. I'm not at all sorry I made the purchase, I'm just trying to point out that saving a few hundred on the rifle itself isn't as much of a savings as one might think, after everything is taken into consideration.   Bill T.

[fightingquaker13]

Good advice Bill. There are some hobbies where if your budget is measured in hundreds, not thousands, its best not to go there. Even if you can afford the entry fee, it will still eat you alive. I got a similar piece of advice from a fishing guide I hired. When I moved back to Fl. I thought I wanted to buy an inshore/off shore skiff and liked his rig a lot. He advised me that when I factored in 5years worth of fuel,maintence, insurance and storage I could hire him to take me out 150 times, twice a month for almost 5 years, and I didn't have to  wash the boat or catch the bait. Sage advice.
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