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gman

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U.N. Small Arms Treaty
« on: January 04, 2010, 10:00:06 AM »
I received a frantic email this morning about how this is the beginning of the end, you know the kind I speak of.  I did some looking around and this appears to be from October, no date appears on the Reuters website.  I found a post on a blog from December 23 2009, see link and quote below.

Does anyone know if this stuff is current, or has has it flown under the radar of the gun culture?

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

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The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the United States would support the talks as long as the negotiating forum, the so-called Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty, "operates under the rules of consensus decision-making."

"Consensus is needed to ensure the widest possible support for the Treaty and to avoid loopholes in the Treaty that can be exploited by those wishing to export arms irresponsibly," Clinton said in a written statement.

While praising the Obama administration's decision to overturn the Bush-era policy and to proceed with negotiations to regulate conventional arms sales, some groups criticized the U.S. insistence that decisions on the treaty be unanimous.

"The shift in position by the world's biggest arms exporter is a major breakthrough in launching formal negotiations at the United Nations in order to prevent irresponsible arms transfers," Amnesty International and Oxfam International said in a joint statement.

However, they said insisting that decisions on the treaty be made by consensus "could fatally weaken a final deal."

"Governments must resist US demands to give any single state the power to veto the treaty as this could hold the process hostage during the course of negotiations. We call on all governments to reject such a veto clause," said Oxfam International's policy adviser Debbie Hillier.

The proposed legally binding treaty would tighten regulation of, and set international standards for, the import, export and transfer of conventional weapons.

Supporters say it would give worldwide coverage to close gaps in existing regional and national arms export control systems that allow weapons to pass onto the illicit market.

Nations would remain in charge of their arms export control arrangements but would be legally obliged to assess each export against criteria agreed under the treaty. Governments would have to authorize transfers in writing and in advance.

The main opponent of the treaty in the past was the U.S. Bush administration, which said national controls were better. Last year, the United States accounted for more than two-thirds of some $55.2 billion in global arms transfer deals.

Arms exporters China, Russia and Israel abstained last year in a U.N. vote on the issue.

The proposed treaty is opposed by conservative U.S. think tanks like the Heritage Foundation, which said last month that it would not restrict the access of "dictators and terrorists" to arms but would be used to reduce the ability of democracies such as Israel to defend their people.

The U.S. lobbying group the National Rifle Association has also opposed the treaty.

A resolution before the U.N. General Assembly is sponsored by seven nations including major arms exporter Britain. It calls for preparatory meetings in 2010 and 2011 for a conference to negotiate a treaty in 2012.
 


http://www.therepublicantemple.com/2009/12/23/hillary-clinton-commits-to-un-small-arms-treaty/

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With willing one-world accomplices in Washington, D.C., gun-grabbers around the globe believe they have it made.

In fact, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton just announced the Obama Administration would be working hand in glove with the UN to pass a new “Small Arms Treaty.”

Disguised as legislation to help in the fight against “terrorism,” “insurgency” and “international crime syndicates,” the UN Small Arms Treaty is nothing more than a massive, GLOBAL gun control scheme.

Ultimately, the UN’s Small Arms Treaty is designed to register, ban and CONFISCATE firearms owned by private citizens like YOU.

That’s why it’s vital you sign special petition I’ve made up for your signature that DEMANDS your U.S. Senators vote AGAINST ratification of the UN’s “Small Arms Treaty!”

So far, the gun-grabbers have successfully kept the exact wording of their new scheme under wraps.

But looking at previous versions of the UN “Small Arms Treaty,” you and I can get a good idea of what’s likely in the works.

If passed by the UN and ratified by the U.S. Senate, the UN “Small Arms Treaty” would almost certainly FORCE national governments to:

Enact tougher licensing requirements, making law-abiding citizens cut through even more bureaucratic red tape just to own a firearm legally.
CONFISCATE and DESTROY ALL “unauthorized” civilian firearms (all firearms owned by the government are excluded, of course)
BAN the trade, sale and private ownership of ALL semi-automatic weapons
Create an INTERNATIONAL gun registry, setting the stage for full-scale gun CONFISCATION.
You see, this is NOT a fight we can afford to lose.

Ever since it’s founding almost 65 years ago, the United Nations has been hell-bent on bringing the United States to its knees.

To the petty dictators and one-worlders who control the UN, the U.S. isn’t a “shining city on a hill” — it’s an affront to their grand totalitarian designs for the globe.

These anti-gun globalists know that so long as Americans remain free to make our own decisions without being bossed around by big government bureaucrats, they’ll NEVER be able to seize the worldwide oppressive power they crave.

And the UN’s apologists also know the most effective way to finally strip you and me of ALL our freedoms would be to DESTROY our gun rights.

And you and I know good and well how Germany, Great Britain, France, Communist China or the rest of the anti-gun members of the United Nations are going to vote.

So our ONE AND ONLY CHANCE of stopping the UN’s “Small Arms Treaty” is during the ratification process in the U.S. Senate.

As you know, it takes 67 Senate votes to ratify a treaty.

With 40 Republicans, that should be easy, right?

Unfortunately, that couldn’t be further from the truth.

First, you know just as well as I do that not all the remaining Republicans in the Senate are “pro-gun” in any sense of the term.

Second, even with the partisan rancor in Washington, D.C., many GOP Senators get “queasy” about killing treaties for fear of “embarrassing” the President — especially with “international prestige” at stake.

They look at ratifying treaties much like approving Presidents’ Supreme Court nominees.

And remember, there were NINE Republicans who voted to confirm anti-gun Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor.

A dozen more GOP Senators only voted against Sotomayor after receiving massive grassroots pressure from the folks back home.

So if we’re going to defeat the UN’s “Small Arms Treaty” we have to turn the heat up on the U.S. Senate now before it’s too late!

So won’t you click here to sign IMMEDIATELY?




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Re: U.N. Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2010, 10:21:18 AM »
Go to nraila.org to get the latest on this topic.
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gman

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Re: U.N. Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2010, 11:35:06 AM »
Thanks Graywolf

Here's the specific link if anyone's interested.
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=5224

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Re: U.N. Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2010, 12:13:56 PM »
 Yes, it's true. Hildabeast announced last fall that the US Government would no longer oppose the Soros initiated anti self defense treaty.
Of course the US POPULATION seems to have other ideas.  ;D

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Re: U.N. Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2010, 03:30:17 PM »
Loophole BHO, and his cronies,.....

The weakest link is the legal ramifications/consequences through treaties. BHO can go around Congress, States, even the Constitution.(Which the Left considers a living, breathing, evolving document).

BHO can, with the stroke of pen, directly effect ammo imported to this country also. Which would make us relive the post-election scarcity and price increase.

Any back-door option to gun/ammo control IS being reviewed. They will keep it quiet, incorporate it into pg 1,035 sub-paragraph "R",sub-section viii, sentence 5, and next thing you know, you can't get XYZ anymore....

Or the existing inventory will double/triple in price.

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Re: U.N. Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2010, 03:38:14 PM »
 Treaties have to be ratified by Congress .

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Re: U.N. Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2010, 04:25:36 PM »
Treaties have to be ratified by Congress .

Nancy will sign anything. Harry is falling on the sword and could care less,

Thus, if a proposed treaty would violate any provision of the Constitution, it may not even be seriously considered or debated, much less be ratified and implemented because the same restrictions that were placed by the Constitution on the U.S. Federal government are also imposed on any treaty provision.

Treaty embroilment is so dangerous and so important, that to further limit and restrict their making, Article II, Section 2, Paragraph 2 orders that the President: "...shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; [Emphasis added.]"

http://www.jpands.org/hacienda/article4.html

It's all inside baseball at this point...
Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: U.N. Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2010, 04:28:08 PM »
about the only thing BHO can really do is stop the importation of guns and ammo( atleast in the short term).  every thing else he needs congress help on.

even with congresses blessing, this treaty won't stand up to either a legal challenge or a public one.
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Re: U.N. Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2010, 12:23:02 PM »
 Come take it says America.LOL

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Re: U.N. Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2010, 07:19:13 PM »
even with congresses blessing, this treaty won't stand up to either a legal challenge.......

Yes it will. All ratified treaties supersede the constitution of the United States.

 

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