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If your from IOWA you might want to look at this
« on: January 04, 2010, 06:58:16 PM »
Iowa flirting with No Permit Needed Concealed Carry
In the middle of America, you wouldn't expect it to be so difficult to get a concealed carry permit. But in Iowa, it is -- especially if the local sheriff doesn't like you.

That's why I'm glad to introduce you to a great new organization fighting on this issue. Iowa Gun Owners has been pushing for a major reform of Iowa's "Might Issue" concealed carry laws.

Not since Alaska (in 2003) has a state passed a no-permit-needed concealed carry law, enacting real carry freedom for law-abiding gun owners.

Iowa Gun Owners burst on to the scene in their rural state because for too long nothing had been done about their atrocious gun laws.

Compared to most of the smaller states, Iowa has some of the worst firearms laws in America, and no one in power seemed to care (though local gun owners have wanted change for years).

But in early 2009, State Rep. Kent Sorenson (R-Indianola) sponsored a bill to end the demand that Iowans beg permission to carry concealed.

And Iowa Gun Owners took action.

Surprising pundits throughout the state, Iowa Gun Owners brought Sorensen's bill within 1 vote of passing their State House.

Now, in an effort to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, the institutional gun lobby has offered a "compromise." To many, that comes as no surprise, but it will spell defeat for any real concealed carry reform in Iowa.

Why would I write every gun owner in America for help on this issue?

First, Iowa is truly a pivotal state. Its early Straw Poll and Caucuses make it our nation's most watched political barometer.

Second, rarely does the chance come to pass historic legislation like this.

Every freedom lover in America should be excited about the possibility.

It's not just about one more "Shall Issue" state, but rather it's about Iowa becoming a bellwether for liberty in the very heart of our nation.

I often hear "the Second Amendment is my permit to carry", and I couldn't agree more. What, after all, is the right to "bear arms", in a modern context, if it is not to carry concealed?

But those are just empty words if the law makes a mockery of the Constitution.

With that in mind, I encourage everyone who truly embraces the Second Amendment's right to "bear arms" without infringement to jump on board and help out Iowa Gun Owners.

Seriously, it's that important.

To carry the tools of self-defense in Vermont and Alaska, you don't have to undergo a background enema, be fingerprinted like a common criminal, pay for state-mandated firearms training or have your name and address end up on some list.

You don't have to beg for your God-given rights. That's what the Second Amendment REALLY means!

Unfortunately, some of the elitist gun owners in America -- the head-honchos of the institutional gun lobby -- have trouble understanding that. In many states, they even directly oppose Vermont-Alaska real concealed carry.

Their opposition to freedom is nothing but a self-serving "I've got mine" attitude, seasoned with a dash of "not EVERYONE should be able to carry a gun."

But let's examine that attitude: it means they don't really oppose gun control.

They just oppose gun control when it's imposed on them. Give them their own little tin-pot dictatorship, and they're happy to limit your freedom.

Understand that real concealed carry doesn't allow a criminal to carry concealed legally, since that criminal is already ineligible to possess a firearm in the first place. Enacting a Vermont-Alaska law simply affirms a God-given right, which is secured by the U.S. Constitution and all but 6 state constitutions.

While it's true that permitless carry does not provide a mechanism to carry across friendly state lines, it does remove the hoops-and-hurdles in the home state. If one is worried about reciprocity acquiring a permit will still be an option.

So what can you do to help?

Donate to Iowa Gun Owners with a one-time gift through NAGR's special Iowa Freedom! Donation Page. Or, if you prefer, donate directly to Iowa Gun Owners.

As a fledgling group run by a young man of the highest integrity, Iowa Gun Owners is an organization I fully endorse -- in fact, I believe it's so important to help Iowa Gun Owners that I've donated directly to them myself.

So join me in making a generous contribution today!

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Re: If your from IOWA you might want to look at this
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2010, 07:04:14 PM »
Gun clingers...... all of 'em
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Re: If your from IOWA you might want to look at this
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2010, 07:26:38 PM »
Gun clingers...... all of 'em

Probably NRA and Bible owners too....

from article:
Every freedom lover in America should be excited about the possibility.

It's not just about one more "Shall Issue" state, but rather it's about Iowa becoming a bellwether for liberty in the very heart of our nation.

Let the Iowa Caucasus roll with that in 2010, and 2012.
Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
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Re: If your from IOWA you might want to look at this
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2010, 07:51:18 PM »
Probably NRA and Bible owners too....

Its probably because they hate the idea of a black man in the White House..... yeah thats it.... nothing but TeaBagging red necks there in Iowa... This is racism, straight up ::)

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Re: If your from IOWA you might want to look at this
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2010, 08:21:22 PM »
Its probably because they hate the idea of a black man in the White House..... yeah thats it.... nothing but TeaBagging red necks there in Iowa... This is racism, straight up ::)


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Re: If your from IOWA you might want to look at this
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Re: If your from IOWA you might want to look at this
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2010, 08:55:05 PM »
That woman is a racist bigot.
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Re: If your from IOWA you might want to look at this
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2010, 09:07:54 PM »
That woman is a racist bigot stupid bitch.

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*Oh, sorry.... You were talking about Olbermann(D)
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Re: If your from IOWA you might want to look at this
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2010, 10:40:07 PM »
Both. Thanks for correcting it.  ;D
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Re: If your from IOWA you might want to look at this
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2010, 07:28:30 AM »
The last session I didn't get to keep track of the laws like in years past while working at the sheriff's office.  I am very glad that I have lived in counties that are for the most part "Shall Issue" I do however have friends that live in counties that the Sheriff's make it extremely hard to get a CCW.  I'll have to check out the Iowa Gun Owners and see what I can do to preserve our rights! 

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Re: If your from IOWA you might want to look at this
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2010, 07:48:06 AM »
I don't want to poop the party, but there is a practical concern here. Shall issue is ideal and no permit is gravy on top. BUT, most states won't reciprocate unless there is some sort of permit process/class required. This is bad for two reasons. On a micro-level it means you won't be able carry in Fl. and in the unlikely event I go to Iowa ( ;) just kidding) I won't be able to carry either. On a macro-level, it almost hurts the cause. As more states institute "shall issue", and Heller, hopefully becomes more entrenched, voters will begin to take it for granted that they can carry nation wide and get as impatient with anti-gun laws as they are with blue laws. It won't stop the antis any more than the tee-toalars, but it doesn't help your caue when 80% of of the population rolls their eyes and thinks "What is wrong with you backwards hicks/gunbaning liberals, I just want to buy a beer/to carry my pistol like I can at home". As Planned Parenthood v Casey told us with abortion rights, a universal expectation that a right is Constitutionally protected carries weight with the court. I don't want to debate whether that is good thing or not as its irrelevant, but just put it forward as fact. If you doubt this, read O'Conner's majority opinion. I'm all  for fewer restrictions, but Vermont residents can't carry in Fl. and thats too bad.
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