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[Tyler Durden]

Thanks Mike for that very well put together response.  I too hate cliche's and internet rumors turned urban legends.

Would you happen to have a "one place shopping " website that might tell us what the individual state laws are on the ASP and other batons?

As far as flashlights go, I got to experience the disorienting effects of a Blackhawk Gladius's strobe light feature.   

It was at the Blackhawk booth at the 2007 NRA show in St. Louis that I got to be experimented on.  Now, maybe it was because we were in a blacked out tent that the effects of the strobe were more pronounced.  I dunno...  Maybe out on the street the strobe would have less effects....again...I dunno...

And just FWIW, I am not employed by Blackhawk NOR am I distributor for them.  My high speed flash light is the seventeen dollar Coleman clone of the Surefire at Wally World.  Yes, the Coleman does have the cheese grater bezel.   

(sigh)

Maybe one of these days I can afford such a high fallutin flashlight.

(sigh)

[r_w]

I went through this drill when I travelled a lot for work.  The detailed restrictions on batons and pepper spray were mind numbing.  I independently came to the same answer as MJ--a good flashlight.  Not only is it as benign as possible to TSA or local LEO, it requires minimal training to be proficient--dumb hammer works. 

[Walter45Auto]

Thanks  Rob.I didn't list fixed blades as an option, because I was thinkinking small and concealed. How small are we talking here on the fixed blades? A small one would make me more comfortable than a folder.
Thanks
FQ13

I've seen a lot of LEO's with one of these in their boot or on their Duty belt. They're no bigger than most pocketknives are open.

http://www.themartialist.com/tdi.htm


My choice would be a knife. Because as it was said, you can open mail, boxes, or cut your pork chops with a knife. Tazers and batons are pretty much single- purpose.

[PegLeg45]

And just FWIW, I am not employed by Blackhawk NOR am I distributor for them.  My high speed flash light is the seventeen dollar Coleman clone of the Surefire at Wally World.  Yes, the Coleman does have the cheese grater bezel.   

(sigh)

Maybe one of these days I can afford such a high fallutin flashlight.

(sigh)

I carry one of the Coleman lights in my pocket every day (had it about 9 months or so). It is a good little light. The 65 lumen spot beam will hit out to 100 yards and it will light up any area of my home more than enough. It's plenty bright enough to blind someone's night vision in a darkened room. It ain't 'high speed' but it works.

[tfr270]

http://www.hideawayknife.com/main.php

I carry one of these. I read the California law on knives and I believe this one to be ok to carry. I've trained a bit with it and feel pretty comfy with it. Since I can't carry a gun this and my inferno spray are my tools that I carry with me. The gun stays at home, or is transported legally when I go on a trip or to the ranch.

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http://www.hideawayknife.com/main.php

I carry one of these. I read the California law on knives and I believe this one to be ok to carry. I've trained a bit with it and feel pretty comfy with it. Since I can't carry a gun this and my inferno spray are my tools that I carry with me. The gun stays at home, or is transported legally when I go on a trip or to the ranch.

here is the skinny on CA state knife laws( some citys have laws that go beyond this)  you can conceal a fixed single edge blade that is no longer then 3.5"    you can wear any size single edged fixed blade   as long as its exposed.   Floders can be any length as long as they are single edged and not a "switch blade".  while that blade would be legall, the round loop makes it a felony to have on your perosn as that would be "brass knuckles"

[Michael Janich]

Would you happen to have a "one place shopping " website that might tell us what the individual state laws are on the ASP and other batons?

I haven't found anything authoritative, but good places to start are packing.org and bernardlevine.com.

As far as flashlights go, I got to experience the disorienting effects of a Blackhawk Gladius's strobe light feature.   

It was at the Blackhawk booth at the 2007 NRA show in St. Louis that I got to be experimented on.  Now, maybe it was because we were in a blacked out tent that the effects of the strobe were more pronounced.  I dunno...  Maybe out on the street the strobe would have less effects....again...I dunno...

The more ambient light there is, the less effective the strobe will be.

And just FWIW, I am not employed by Blackhawk...

Neither am I--anymore. And my choice of personal carry items has changed significantly since.

Stay safe,

Mike

[ratcatcher55]

 Neither am I--anymore. And my choice of personal carry items has changed significantly since.

Stay safe,

Mike
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So what are you carring these days?

[Walter45Auto]

So what are you carrying these days?

I'd like to know  that as well,Mike.

[Michael Janich]

So what are you carring these days?

Primary knife is an Endura plain edge, ground down to 3.5 inches and a more wharncliffe-style profile. It's backed by two Delicas--one plain and one combination edge. My light is an Insight HX120. Carry pistol is a Glock 23 in a Blade-Tech IWB holster.

Stay safe,

Mike