Will 2010 be the year of the Tea Party?

[tombogan03884]

You mean the "Harry Anslinger" who made a career of lying about the effects and statistics on use of some drugs to avoid unemployment after Prohibition was ended ?

From the Mitrokhin file of KGB archives  (The Sword and the Shield  pg 234 last paragraph - pg 235 ) "Service A (of the KGB First Chief Directorate ) employed 3 simple and sometimes crude techniques. The first was to portray Hoover as in league with extremists such as the ultra right John Birch Society,....
A second, more sophisticated form of active measure concerned alleged FBI abuses of civil rights.....
A third line of attack deployed by Service A against Hoover was to accuse him of being a homosexual. ....
Later much publicized claims that he was a gay cross dresser..... rest on nothing more than the discredited testimony of a convicted perjurer, Susan Rosenstiel, .... Nor is there any evidence that Hoover and his deputy, Clyde Tolson , ... ever had a homosexual relationship.

This information is confirmed through the US "Venona" radio intercepts, I don't have that book in front of my to quote page numbers though.

You need a better education FQ, the one you got sucks.

[Rastus]

Tom,

The shame of it all is that we have a huge nation educated by Hollywood, fascist-liberal news media and leftist idealogues (politicians) who have an interest in agenda and truth becomes what they want it to be.  Lies clothed in an apparition of truth that falls upon the minds and eyes of those who gobble knowledge without smelling it first.

Clinging to deception as an avenue to self-elevation by leaning on the foundation of a people pleasing cocktail concensus of absolute faith in knowledge based upon easy, mindless, acceptance of that which is not so.  How else could that which is good be bad and that which is bad become good where the truth is a lie and a lie is the foundation of "all truths" to be lorded upon us simpletons who dare to think and challenge the tripe of the thieves of liberty.

[crusader rabbit]

FQ, you aren't very well informed.

Tom, that kinda sums it all up.  FQ isn't much of a libertarian (small l) or a Libertarian (cap L), either.  He's a big government lefty.  I mean, I like him enough, and he seems to be a great guy except that he did vote for Odamna (no Libertarian worth a bucket of warm spit would have done that).  And, if he really thinks he's a libertarian, he suffers from severe delusions and may require an intervention.  THAT could be fun.

[fightingquaker13]

Tom, that kinda sums it all up.  FQ isn't much of a libertarian (small l) or a Libertarian (cap L), either.  He's a big government lefty.  I mean, I like him enough, and he seems to be a great guy except that he did vote for Odamna (no Libertarian worth a bucket of warm spit would have done that).  And, if he really thinks he's a libertarian, he suffers from severe delusions and may require an intervention.  THAT could be fun.

You seem like a decent guy too crusader. Thing is this. I started out all hard core libertarian. Then life happened, studying politics and studying history happened. The lesson learned from all three boils down to this. NEVER trust any ideology (insert your favorite or least favorite here). We need them to give us a basic grounding, but none have all the answers, you have to improvise as you go. They say economics is "the dismal science". They lie, economics actually promises prosperity if done right. Politics is the true dismal science as 9 times out of 10 it makes us choose the least bad option.
FQ13 Who calls himself libertarian because the hopeful cynics don't have a party. I mean, it could work, but whats the point really, some dumb greedy bastard would just screw it up.

[tombogan03884]

You seem like a decent guy too crusader. Thing is this. I started out all hard core libertarian. Then life happened, studying politics and studying history happened. The lesson learned from all three boils down to this. NEVER trust any ideology (insert your favorite or least favorite here). We need them to give us a basic grounding, but none have all the answers, you have to improvise as you go. They say economics is "the dismal science". They lie, economics actually promises prosperity if done right. Politics is the true dismal science as 9 times out of 10 it makes us choose the least bad option.
FQ13 Who calls himself libertarian because the hopeful cynics don't have a party. I mean, it could work, but whats the point really, some dumb greedy bastard would just screw it up.

To bad you only swallowed the propaganda instead of actually LEARNING any thing from it. History holds all the answers to the present if you ignore the spin and actually THINK about the facts.

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[m25operator]

Allright FQ, I once wrote that I leaned more libertarian than anything else, but the support of abortion kept me from being a true kool aid drinker, not to mention they are hard to get elected, but sometimes you get lucky. As I remember, you lambasted me for that view. Now your talking RIGHT,  no party is perfect, no ideology is pure, unless your willing to ignore aspects that don't make sense and just take the individual candidate to task, after all He or She is going to represent you and your beliefs, not the party, irrespective of what party that is.

Back on thread, I don't think there will be a Tea PARTY, just people from the events, bringing questions about everything that is going on in DC. I think it will be conservative, and a lot of vote the bums out, and a lot of new candidates running, and old candidates with their feet being held to the fire.

Tom B educated me on this one, but I will say it again, the only thing that will allow a 3rd party or 4th party, in, is the winner has to win 50+ % of the vote, if not, then a run off, between the top 2 candidates until someone reaches 50+. I now understand in country wide politics, this is unconstitutional, and I doubt we could get either the house or the senate to change this, it's way too fair.

[fightingquaker13]

I agree Operator, and as far as the post in question (I don't remember it) I will say this. I'm not on this board to preach, but to learn. Its amazing what happens when you really listen to folks you THOUGHT you disagreed with.
FQ13

[Woody]

 I don't care about any of the Partys, let's just vote them all out. I think we all can agree on that.