Author Topic: Look like California is going to try and become a Shall issue state.  (Read 1585 times)

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Just posting this for the interested as the hearing is in less than a week.
I do hope this is the first step in getting Cali out of the dark ages.

CALNRA: AB 357 (CCW) Hearing Tuesday, Jan 12
01/05/2010 2:30 PM - PLEASE DISTRIBUTE WIDELY

AB 357 (CONCEALED FIREARMS LICENSE) (Knight) will will be heard in Assembly Public Safety on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010. Please contact the members of the Assembly Public Safety committee and urge support for the bill.

ONE-CLICK links and other contact tools as well as the bill abstract is available here:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2010&summary=ab357

For the latest info on this and other California legislative issues, please visit:
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Re: Look like California is going to try and become a Shall issue state.
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 11:50:06 PM »
Just posting this for the interested as the hearing is in less than a week.
I do hope this is the first step in getting Cali out of the dark ages.

CALNRA: AB 357 (CCW) Hearing Tuesday, Jan 12
01/05/2010 2:30 PM - PLEASE DISTRIBUTE WIDELY

AB 357 (CONCEALED FIREARMS LICENSE) (Knight) will will be heard in Assembly Public Safety on Tuesday, January 12th, 2010. Please contact the members of the Assembly Public Safety committee and urge support for the bill.

ONE-CLICK links and other contact tools as well as the bill abstract is available here:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2010&summary=ab357

For the latest info on this and other California legislative issues, please visit:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml
too little to late.  IF they cared about their citizenry they wouldn't have passed the ammo bills they have in recent months
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Re: Look like California is going to try and become a Shall issue state.
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 11:57:40 PM »
that bill has been floating around in one form or another, for a long time.  its never made it to the floor.

what sucks in CA is they leave it up to the sheriff to make the rules as long as you meet a very, very low standard.

I had to move to a diffrent county to get mine.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Look like California is going to try and become a Shall issue state.
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 11:59:14 PM »
All we can do is try and make our Choices known and when all else falis vote the bastards out and try again.

the ammo bill is not in stone yet. Im not holding my breath but i am annoying the assembly members as much as i can.
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Re: Look like California is going to try and become a Shall issue state.
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2010, 12:09:33 AM »
All we can do is try and make our Choices known and when all else falis vote the bastards out and try again.

the ammo bill is not in stone yet. Im not holding my breath but i am annoying the assembly members as much as i can.
I can understand that, but there comes a point where the citizenry needs to just throw the keys into the water bucket and ride off.  That point was probably was five yrs ago. 
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Re: Look like California is going to try and become a Shall issue state.
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2010, 12:34:20 AM »
May issue is always a problem. In Ca., its a a 2A issue. In Fl., when I was a kid, we were may issue as well. Thing is, it was mostly a race/personality issue. If you were  white, law abiding and hadn't pissed off the sherriff, you just had to ask. It wasn't a problem. Most folks didn't until they tightened the laws on carrying in your car, then applications went up. There just wasn't a CCW culture and folks either didn't or just did without a permit as at least in the 4 counties (Okeechobee, Palm Beach, Collier and Ocala) where my family lived, carrying without a permit was like a DUI pre MADD, not reccomended, but not the end of the world by a long shot. The problem is that it gives WAAAY too much power to the local Gomers. Take two identical apps in 1976 Fl.,one black, one white in Collier, and guess who gets the nod. The same is true in Ca. Two apps that are identical, one in a gun friendly, one in an anti county, and the results are just as arbitrary. "Fundamental Fairness", a basis of Con law since the 14A, says that like cases be treated alike. Shall issue does this. No racial, personal or political bias permitted. Pass the background, take the class, and you're good. Fail to do so and not so much. No room for arbitrary BS. You'd think the black community at least would get this. Hell they need guns more than I do. Oh well, some learn from history, and then there's road kill.
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