Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.

[ratcatcher55]

I never had the experience of any Annapolis grads.  All of the officers I served with were either NROTC, OCS or just college grads with no purpose in life.  Most weren't much older than I was when I seperated.  Had things been different, I may have made the Navy a career.

According to statistics on colleges and universities, the most difficult colleges nationally for academics are West Point, Annapolis, the Air Force Academy and the Coast Guard Academy......

I don't disagree and don't take it that I don't like Academy grads in general. It's that there are "ring knockers" who could not lead hungry wolves to meat. The clique keeps them in their branch of service way too long. The old USNA grad I worked with, (I was not in his chain of command) was getting by on the fact he played football at the school, I think without a helmet.  When it was obvious he was over his head he went to the US Secret Service.  Good choice because he was large enough to stop lots of bullets and too stupid to get out of the way.

I hear the same stories from the folks in the branches of the service so I guess you just learn to accept it if you want to make that a career.

My current boss is a O-6 USNR. A good guy, smart and worked for me when he was an O-1 and O-3. He has a sense of humor and would write that letter to piss off Marines.

[tt11758]

NO Marine I ever knew would bitch about scantily clad women.  At least not until after he had left what little they were wearing laying in a pile on the floor and left the wearer in a puddle of her own sweat.

[Timothy]

My rate wasn't prestigeous enough for Academy types.  No shipboard service to speak of.  Our officers in the 70's were mostly adminstrative types with degrees in Poly Sci, Accounting, who knows but they were not techincal wizards and when you're working 80-90 hours a week working with sound physics, have a few technical skills would be a plus.

About the time I seperated, the Navy finally figured it out and started promoting from within and taking E-6, E-7's and E-8's and making them LDO's.  A bunch of my old buddies mustanged into the leadership rolls that made things much easier to deal with.  No longer did you have to take some 23 year old girl with an accounting degree and try and get them to understand what the deep sound channel axis was or identify an Alpha running at 30 knots under the ice cap.  You had seasoned analysts running the operations and commands.

One friend of mine started E-1, did 34 years and retired in '07 as an O-6.

[fightingquaker13]

I never had the experience of any Annapolis grads.  All of the officers I served with were either NROTC, OCS or just college grads with no purpose in life.  Most weren't much older than I was when I seperated.  Had things been different, I may have made the Navy a career.

According to statistics on colleges and universities, the most difficult colleges nationally for academics are West Point, Annapolis, the Air Force Academy and the Coast Guard Academy......

Not neccesarily for "quality" of academics, there you want to look at MIT and the like. In terms of selectivity, how hard it is to get in, the Coast Guard Academy has long been tops. Its something like one out of 100 make it. It makes Harvard look like a safety school.
FQ13

[bulldog75]

I know marines are like the army (former army). I do not think they would compalin about seeing a little more of a womans anatomy. They might start somthing and pillaging.

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[TacticalTennessean]

Sounds like Political Science majors going through Air Force ROTC aren't welcome round these parts. 

[Timothy]

Sounds like Political Science majors going through Air Force ROTC aren't welcome round these parts. 

Didn't mean to sound so harsh....everyone is welcome here.  My point, though poorly verbalized, was that the job I was doing would have been better suited to officers with engineering degrees with heavy physics backgrounds.  There are fine officers that come out of the ROTC programs.  Nearly 50% of commisioned active duty officers today come from ROTC.  Non of my officers were bad administrators.  Once we E-5's taught them HOW to do the job, they would eventually catch up!

 

Thanks for your service...

p.s.  E-5's run the military in spite of what the E-9's tell you!

Tim

[tombogan03884]

Sounds like Political Science majors going through Air Force ROTC aren't welcome round these parts.  

 No problem with AF ROTC, No problem with Political Science majors as long as you don't believe the crap the socialist professors are feeding you. If you take their propaganda as gospel you will get kicked around like a Fighting Quaker  
2 most important things, Remember that all that European Humanism stuff is discredited crap, and as they present differant ideas, ask yourself "How would this work out in a 3rd world jungle ? "
Third item, read Thomas Sowell's "Conflict of Visions" or watch this video

http://www.pjtv.com/video/Afterburner_with_Bill_Whittle/A_Tale_of_Two_Revolutions%3A_The_War_of_Ideas_%26_the_Tragedy_of_the_Unconstrained_Vision/2403/

[bulldog75]

They just keep us E-6s around for adult supervision. To keep the shave tails entertained with a compass.

[tombogan03884]

 OH GOD, the most dangerous person in uniform, a 2nd Lt. with a compass  !