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Bringin Him Up right......
« on: January 10, 2010, 04:15:07 PM »
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Re: Bringin Him Up right......
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2010, 04:44:06 PM »
I'm a little iffy on this one. Dad seems to have taught him safety and how the guns work. Still, giving a kid (I'm guessing about ten?) a gun he isn't physically strong eough to control without dad holding it seems a little questionable. Yeah dad is right there and that's good. However given that the guy seems to have BillTs gun budget beat, I think a semi .22 might be a better way to go at that age. Still props to dad for getting him involved and teaching him early.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2010, 07:26:50 PM »
 The Dad was right there with the Thompson, Kid did not seem to have any trouble with the 9mm's.
Your inner liberal is showing.
It wasn't that long ago any kid that age with regular access to the woods took his .22 with him.

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Re: Bringin Him Up right......
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2010, 07:33:56 PM »
The Dad was right there with the Thompson, Kid did not seem to have any trouble with the 9mm's.
Your inner liberal is showing.
It wasn't that long ago any kid that age with regular access to the woods took his .22 with him.
Politics has nothing to do with this. Since when have I ever been anti-2A? Hell, Id love to own any of those gun. Its just a safety question. I wouldn't let him use a chainsaw either. Thats why I said I was iffy, not dissaproving. Its just a question of not giving a kid more tool than they can safely handle.
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Re: Bringin Him Up right......
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2010, 07:36:01 PM »
He did OK with the 9's but that Thompson must have a heavy trigger as Dad even needed to help him with that, as well as holding it.
Another thing to note is that with the suppressor it's not physically possible for him to have the type of accident that killed that kid in Mass a year or so ago, the worst that can happen if it runs away on him ( assuming there are no other houses around ) is he gets bonked in the face with the suppressor.

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Re: Bringin Him Up right......
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2010, 07:44:23 PM »
Dad needed to put his glasses on instead of on the bill of his cap...

Besides that, I shot my dads 12 gauge when I was about 6.....he rested it against his thigh while I pulled the trigger.  I told him it didn't hurt my shoulder at all while he limped along next to me!

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Re: Bringin Him Up right......
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2010, 08:02:13 PM »
Look, I have no moral or political beef here. I don't even neccesarily dissaprove. I do question whether the kid is too physically weak to safely handle  these firearms. The reason for this is that kid who managed to shoot himself with an uzi on full auto at a gun club a few months ago (we had at least two threads on it it). Granted he didn't have the close supervision shown in the video that this kid seems to. Dad seems to be concientious. I'm just not sure that when a 70 pound ten year old wants to shoot a tommy gun on full auto that the  answer shouldn't be "maybe when you're older".  No politics were involved in making this post. ;D Just a question of thinking its a bad idea to hand someone a weapon that they can't control. Give the kid a .22 and wait till he's a little older and bigger before moving on to the full auto .45s is my first instinct. I could be wrong.
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Re: Bringin Him Up right......
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2010, 08:39:25 PM »
We all remember the tragic events of the child that died at the range. Point being when my son, who is now 6' tall was a young kid about the same age as the kid in the video was at the range with me, I was just the like dad. I was holding on to the rifle, the foregrip, the trigger, etc,...right behind him like a wet blanket. Even if all I had was semi-auto, there was no way firing would have gotten away from his control, because I was in control. Now, I still stand right behind him, and just have to tell him to control his rate of fire.

When this kid gets older, the fundamentals of good safety will be ingrained in his brain, and that is a good thing.

It is tragic that in that brief moment, a young child wasn't "covered" by a parent, and the full auto got away from that kid and took his life that day at the range.

I'm sure the father is still dying every day without his son.

But the vid was a good one, he will be as the OP is titled brought up right. (with full auto at that,...) :-\
Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2010, 10:23:11 PM »
Look, I have no moral or political beef here. I don't even neccesarily dissaprove. I do question whether the kid is too physically weak to safely handle  these firearms. The reason for this is that kid who managed to shoot himself with an uzi on full auto at a gun club a few months ago (we had at least two threads on it it). Granted he didn't have the close supervision shown in the video that this kid seems to. Dad seems to be concientious. I'm just not sure that when a 70 pound ten year old wants to shoot a tommy gun on full auto that the  answer shouldn't be "maybe when you're older".  No politics were involved in making this post. ;D Just a question of thinking its a bad idea to hand someone a weapon that they can't control. Give the kid a .22 and wait till he's a little older and bigger before moving on to the full auto .45s is my first instinct. I could be wrong.
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FQ, THIS IS THE 3RD TIME I'M POSTING PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING, I'LL TYPE SLOW, AND USE LARGE PRINT, I'LL EVEN TRY TO STICK WITH SMALL WORDS.
FIRST, THE KID SEEMED TO DO QUITE WELL WITH THE 9MM'S, LOOKED LIKE HE CONTROLLED THEM AS WELL AS YOU OR I WOULD, GRANTED HE SEEMED TO HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE THOMPSON, BUT HIS DAD WAS RIGHT THERE, AND SEEMED TO BE DOING MOST OF THE WORK FOR THAT ONE.
THE LITTLE BOY WHO DIED IN MASS. WAS A BIT YOUNGER, HAD NEVER FIRED A FULL AUTO BEFORE,  AND WAS FIRING AN UNSUPPRESSED UZI THAT GOT AWAY FROM HIM AND FIRED UPWARD THROUGH THE BOTTOM OF HIS CHIN, THAT CAN NOT POSSIBLY HAPPEN TO THE KID IN THIS VIDEO, THE SUPPRESSOR ADDS SIGNIFICANT LENGTH TO THE BARREL, HE COULD NOT GET THE MUZZLE INTO THAT POSITION AND STILL REACH THE TRIGGER, THE WORST HE COULD DO WOULD BE TO BONK HIMSELF IN THE FACE WITH THE SUPPRESSOR, MAYBE A MINOR BURN FROM THE HEAT,MAYBE A MINOR BRUISE, AND SEVERE EMBARRASSMENT WHEN THE PARENTS SHOW THE VIDEO TO HIS FUTURE GIRLFRIENDS.


You need to quick looking at things and start actually SEEING what is shown, That grey matter inside your skull is NOT there to keep your hat rack from collapsing, THINK DUDE.

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Re: Bringin Him Up right......
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2010, 10:37:36 PM »
No need to yell Tom. I've made my point and given my reasons. You have as well ( in very large and annoying print). ::) Thing is, neither one of us is making safety decisions for ten year olds, so maybe we should both shut up and listen to the dads out there make their case one way or the other. I don't have a dog in this fight. TW makes a good case. Maybe others in his shoes might disagree, I'm curious. I can easily be persuaded on this issue. I just posted my gut instict on seeing the vid.
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