Guns & Veterans dont mix/because of guns America is lost

[ericire12]

 

http://www.crossville-chronicle.com/opinion/local_story_012164848.html?keyword=secondarystory

[Timothy]

I call BS....

Focusing on VietNam vets as the study does, did the Vet harbor anger because of what he did while in country or because of the way he or she was treated when they arrived back in the US?

Why didn't these horrible things emerge from WWI and WWII?  How many hundreds of thousands of young men and women fought and came home to a greatful nation and resumed normal, happy, baby making lives?

thoughts...

[tombogan03884]

 The book "Stolen Valor" disproved most of the negative stereotypes of Vietnam vets. This article is nothing but left overs from the communist anti American war movement.

[r_w]

There were guys that came home from WWI and WWII that had issues, as did guys from the Civil War and every conflict ever.  Most dealt with it.  WINNING helped, the gratitude of the country helped more, faith helped the most. 

[tt11758]

But if we are to have any kind of healthy and productive future, where our children can grow up without fear and its corresponding violence to darken their world, we will have to find a different way to live.

It's for the children.

[Sponsor]

[Solus]

Even if everything in this essay is true, it still misses the point and purpose of being armed and trained as a soldier.

The long term effects of being raped, maimed or killed by are avoided by being armed and prepared to defend oneself and one's loved ones with lethal force if necessary.  Folks can make up their own mind if the the risks of long term trauma from killing in self defense are worth it.

The same for soldiers.  I am sure avoiding the long term effects of a Hitler assuming power unopposed are worth the  price paid for those who put everything on the line to protect us.

No, this price should not be viewed as a liability, but rather another aspect of the debt owed those who are willing to prepare and act in the common defense, be they soldiers or civilians.

I hope our society never succumbs to the philosophy that it is better to bend over and take the abuse rather than accept the consequences of standing as free individuals.

[tt11758]

I hope our society never succumbs to the philosophy that it is better to bend over and take the abuse rather than accept the consequences of standing as free individuals.

By and large that's already happened.

[Texas_Bryan]

The author needs to provide some evidence of the points made.  Show me the statistics for shootings, among vets, movie watching peoples, and video game playing peoples, office workers.  Where has shooting increased, and by how much?  Just another rant by a poorly informed, and slow witted, hippie boy.

[twyacht]

Another dweeb that can only go back to some retired hack and throw out the "truly lost" our way....

If I or my family is ever confronted with a lethal threat, I am not going to "kill" the threat, I am going to DEFEND my family.

My CCW instructor drilled into our heads, after a SD shooting, and the intense emotions and police investigating, keep your mouth shut, and NEVER say the word KILL.

This guy has it all wrong, should go live in Canada or France.

I don't carry a gun to shoot to kill someone. I carry a gun and would shoot as necessary to stay alive. If the assailant dies as a result of a desire to harm me, it's no loss to society.
Unknown author, but I like it...

We continue to be annoyed by commentators who insist that a certain type of firearm - a 1911 auto, for example - is designed only "to kill people." If we overlook the capacity of the defensive handgun to intimidate an attacker, that idea may be true, but we could respond by saying that a scalpel is only designed "to cut people." But we can hardly expect the logical approach from our entrenched hoplophobes. I cannot believe that all these people are essentially stupid. What they are, I propose, is simply envious. The man who cannot cope automatically envies the man who can."
Jeff Cooper

I think this type of writer would be just slapped silly by the likes of Jeff Cooper, John Wayne, and Charlton Heston.
Those real MEN have passed away. But I will gladly volunteer to smack this grass eating idiot.

[Bill Stryker]

I own and have read Col Grossman's book On Killing. It is a fine book. I think the author of the OPED never read the entire book. If he did read parts of it he interpreted it wrong. I recommend the book to you, the whole book. Especially if you are a combat veteran as I am.
I also think Thomas I. Warren is wrong about what is the cause of losing the American culture. I think he should look at some other factors, such as the welfare state, the nanny state, political correctness and the rush to take away our rights and freedoms for the greater good. Shades of Marx.
I short, as usual Tom is on the right track.
Bill