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Re: Question about the EEA Witness Match in 45 acp
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2010, 09:35:56 PM »
BM, You DO know, don't you, that the Tigers Maybach engine was crap  ?

Should have stuck with the Duetz/Benz.
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Re: Question about the EEA Witness Match in 45 acp
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2010, 07:53:00 AM »
Thank you all for your input, even the off topic, on target, comments about Ms. Abbate. From the feedback I've received here and elsewhere, except for the "when you've said 1911/Glock, you've said it all" folks; it seems like this is a really good firearm for the money. So far the best size answer I've received about the current frame size is "it is bigger than the CZ75 and smaller than the CZ97, unless you've got girlyman hands, you'll like it". Mine are closer to meathooks so I guess it would be ok. So now I'm down to chosing between "combat" oriented or somewhat tuned SOA range runner. I like both options but can only justify one.

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Re: Question about the EEA Witness Match in 45 acp
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2010, 01:46:57 PM »
Of course we will be expecting porn and a full range report.
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Re: Question about the EEA Witness Match in 45 acp
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2010, 06:13:44 PM »
I forgot to mention, the pros/cons, of a ported barrel. My EAA is ported; great for the range, no question. But if your intent is a double-duty SD pistol, ported is not the way to go.

There are several posts about ported barrels for SD and the consensus is "ports" can add "cons" to a SD situation. If you get a ported frame, however, you can get a standard barrel, and have both.

I'll get a standard barrel very shortly.

Just my humble opinion.

Looking forward to pics and report.

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Re: Question about the EEA Witness Match in 45 acp
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2010, 07:35:57 PM »
Thank you all for your input, even the off topic, on target, comments about Ms. Abbate. From the feedback I've received here and elsewhere, except for the "when you've said 1911/Glock, you've said it all" folks; it seems like this is a really good firearm for the money. So far the best size answer I've received about the current frame size is "it is bigger than the CZ75 and smaller than the CZ97, unless you've got girlyman hands, you'll like it". Mine are closer to meathooks so I guess it would be ok. So now I'm down to chosing between "combat" oriented or somewhat tuned SOA range runner. I like both options but can only justify one.

I didn't mean for my comment to sound that way, just that if you are getting the higher capacity of a non 1911 it seems you might as well go with a smaller diameter round like the 9mm. By the same token I would not consider a 1911 in anything BUT .45 ( best of both worlds Para P 14  ;D  )
It IS a nice looking pistol though.

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Re: Question about the EEA Witness Match in 45 acp
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Re: Question about the EEA Witness Match in 45 acp
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2010, 12:14:32 PM »
Tom, I don't know you...but I didn't mean to imply that I included you in any negative category. I understood what you were saying and respected that you understood I desired a non 1911 platform. The "you've said it all" groups were entirely not part of this forum and each camp seems unable to accept that there are any viable options to their chosen platform.

TW, thanks for the insight on the ported barrel. I don't/can't carry outside the home or range (thanks WI). My primary home SD choices are a 12 ga pump and a 5.56AR stoked with TAP so a ported barrel wouldn't be to much of a con. Are all EAA Match platforms ported? I did not see that noted in the literature I got.

What ever firearm I choose I will post my opinions after I have some range time.

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Re: Question about the EEA Witness Match in 45 acp
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2010, 08:53:44 PM »
Are all EAA Match platforms ported? I did not see that noted in the literature I got.

Not at all, it's just an option. The one's I've seen have been mostly non-ported, but the "race"  gun varieties are certainly out there.

It's a great 45 platform, and you won't be disappointed.

Here's the compact version out.

http://www.eaa-guns.com/item/44634_EAA_Hand_Guns_Pistols_EAA_WITNESS_45ACP_POLY_LI.aspx

full size, I'm starting to like this more and more... 8)
http://www.eaa-guns.com/item/67641_EAA_Hand_Guns_Pistols_EAA_WITNESS_MATCH_45ACP_1.aspx

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Re: Question about the EEA Witness Match in 45 acp
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2010, 08:57:53 PM »
Just my .02 I like the FNP45 my dad has one a it shoots great. Its accurate and it seems like its built to take and give an ass whipping.
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Re: Question about the EEA Witness Match in 45 acp
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2010, 12:34:19 AM »
As far as the frame size, my wife is the primary user of our "Witness".  She likes it because the ergonomics of the grip are excellent, and the weight of the full size all steel frame makes it easier to control than my Glock.  No, not all the "Match" EAA's are ported.  At least ours isn't.  But it's pretty old.  Don't know about the new ones.  If anybody's thinking concealed carry WOW!  It's a big, HEAVY gun for that!  Otherwise I still think it's overall design and features make it outstanding.  On a 25 yard range the EAA has never failed to outshoot, or at least shoot as well as any other .45 we've compared it to (Para Ord., Colt's, Glock's, even a Gold Cup).  Only the Gold Cup has matched it with several people trading back and forth trying their best with each gun.  It's just a lot to carry IMO.

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Re: Question about the EEA Witness Match in 45 acp
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2010, 11:09:40 AM »
Again thanks to all for their input. At this point I'm leaning about 70/30 towards the Witness. For my intended use it will do everything I want at a lower price even after I order additional mags from EAA. I kind of like the all steel, SAO and tuned action. But on the FNP side... full ambi, built like a tank and accessory rail. Maybe I'm going to have to find a way to justify buying one now and one later. I did finally locate both a CZ75 and CZ97 that I could handle but not shoot, for my hands at least great ergos.

TW, the match link you included for the Match is the exact item I am considering, an added plus is I live very close to one of the company's physical storefronts so I would not have to pay an additional transfer fee to have it delivered.

 

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