Author Topic: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.  (Read 10638 times)

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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2010, 01:57:59 AM »

DAMN!!  That makes me wanna trade my 9mm for a .45.....................or bigger!!


I know what you mean.
The dog is scary too.

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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2010, 08:09:26 AM »
It's been said already, but I am not going to sacrifice an arm, a leg, or any other body part in an attempt to control a vicious dog by collar or throat.  I am going for multiple shots to center mass with .40 S&W Gold Dots.  I am going to try and preserve the head because that will be needed to determine rabies infection and IF I am going to need a series of shots.  I love my dog in particular and most dogs in general, but I have a greater fondness for my own intact hide.
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2010, 08:24:47 AM »
I think people are a little off when they talk about "feeding the dog an arm". The object isn't to let the dog chew on your arm for a while so you can grab it.

I was watching something, somewhere (can't remember exactly) the "expert" said to jam your arm down the dogs throat as far as you can. Once you get so far the dog loses the ability to bite. The same affect can be had by grabbing hold of the bottom jaw.

He didn't say it would be easy.  ;)
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2010, 12:28:39 PM »

I know what you mean.
The dog is scary too.


My point exactly!!  ;D
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2010, 04:25:20 PM »
This thread is absolutely incomplete without watching this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGUyMFPJRnU

Both telling and slightly comical...
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2010, 04:44:24 PM »
I have drawn down on a running dog in a park before.  So far every charging, or appearing to charge, dog has responded to the solid, aggressive stance and the loud "no, stop" command.  However, if you think a person can cover ten feet in a hurry, that is nothing compared to an animal.  Once a dog is on you is no time to try and draw.  They break my "circle of safety" or get into "my space" the gun is out and ready.
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2010, 09:34:31 PM »
I think people are a little off when they talk about "feeding the dog an arm". The object isn't to let the dog chew on your arm for a while so you can grab it.

I was watching something, somewhere (can't remember exactly) the "expert" said to jam your arm down the dogs throat as far as you can. Once you get so far the dog loses the ability to bite. The same affect can be had by grabbing hold of the bottom jaw.

He didn't say it would be easy.  ;)

I have been told that also by dog trainers.
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2010, 09:38:16 PM »
I think people are a little off when they talk about "feeding the dog an arm". The object isn't to let the dog chew on your arm for a while so you can grab it.

I was watching something, somewhere (can't remember exactly) the "expert" said to jam your arm down the dogs throat as far as you can. Once you get so far the dog loses the ability to bite. The same affect can be had by grabbing hold of the bottom jaw.

He didn't say it would be easy.  ;)

The movie Snow Dogs also had advice that you should bite the ear of the alpha dog.  Everyone said do it.  However, when the greenhorn did it they all said "They say do it, but no one ever does!"
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2010, 02:08:13 AM »
 In "Never Cry Wolf" Farley Mowatt made the point to BE the Alpha dog .

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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2010, 08:32:34 AM »
In testing my theory that animals can "sense" a person's emotional state (another animal's actually, and probably by smell) I went to visit a friend. 

This friend told me her family dog was aggressive to strangers and to be alarmed when it charged at me barking.

Well, I've dealt with many aggressive dogs and have found a Commanding Nature will usually stop them.

In this case, I decided to go and try to present a neutral to pleased attitude. 

The dog was a black Lab and did charge at me barking as I got out of the car.

I smiled at the dog and projected welcoming thoughts and feelings.

Well, this dog stopped dead in it's tracks, put it's tail between it's legs and ran back into the house.

While I was in the house the dog would slink away from me whenever I entered the room it was in.

The reaction was WAY more submissive than if I had just aggressively told it NO.

All I can figure is that by making it feel I welcomed it to come near me that I was looking for a snack.
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