Author Topic: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.  (Read 10679 times)

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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2010, 04:04:42 AM »
Smiling at a dog is actually a very aggressive thing to do. Showing the teeth to almost any animal is aggressive. You probably just cowed it with that move. Odd, though that is all it took.

As a student of anthropology, some of the school work had to do with behavioral studies of primates - monkeys and apes in particular. Based on what I had learned, I went to the Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago, and went to the ape house. In one cage of baboons, I looked down, glanced at the apes out of the corner of my eye, and in general acted submissive. No reaction.

Another cage of baboons who were just calmly sitting there, I stared at one male, very obviously, and within a few seconds he went through all of the textbook stages - started pacing, then started eyelid flipping. started grimacing and showing his teeth, finally got so worked up he started hooting which set the others off. Kinda cool to do that.
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2010, 11:28:31 PM »
Got the purple milk bone award at work and I will not do that again. Got bit in the a@@. Dog tried to bite my crotch region and I punched the mutt in the nose but it made him run around to my a@@ and clamp down. He shook me twice and ran away before I could get my duty weapon out. 17 puncture wounds. The pain was overwhelming, like sticking you a@@ in a vise. I was going to shoot the mutt but my a@@ cheek was in its mouth. Smith and wesson .357 hitting that dog in the head in a trailer with my a@@ cheek in its mouth, probably not a good thing. Luckly he ran off and, I told the owner that she would be talking to the dog warden. I do not handle dog calls anymore.
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2010, 01:11:31 PM »
Back in the 70's my dad had a 104 lb German Shepherd who bit my grandmother on her ass. She came up and hugged my dad and Choddo bit her.
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2010, 07:32:50 AM »
 >:( WE HAVE LOST TWO FAMILY DOGS(WORTH AT LEAST $2,000.00) TO PIT BULLS. THE FIRST ONE I WAS OUT OF TOWN WORKING & GOT HOME TO SOME UPSET PEOPLE. I TOOK THE DOG TO THE VET BUT IT WAS TO LATE. THE PIT BULLS HAD BROKE IT'S SPINAL CORD.  THE SECOND TIME HAPPENED IT MY FRONT PORCH. TWO PIT BULLS SOMEHOW SLIPPED UNDER THE GATE & ATTACKED OUR SHIH-TSU. I HAD JUST GOTTEN OUT OF THE SHOWER & HEARD OUR DOG BARKING LIKE CRAZY WHICH WAS VERY UNLIKE HIM. SO GRABBED THE FIRST GUN OUT OF THE CORNER(SINGLE-SHOT 12 GA. LOADED W/BIRDSHOT AFTER WATCHING  BEST DEFENSE) & OPENED THE DOOR. THERE WERE THE TWO PIT BULLS ATTACKING OUR DOG & WHEN I YELLED AT THEM, ONE OF THEM RUSHED ME! NEEDLESS TO SAY, THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE DOG BURIED THAT EVENING.
 SO ANYONE THAT SAYS THAT PITS, ROTTS, DOBERMANS, BULLDOGS, ETC. ARE NOT DANGEROUS,  I CAN SHOW'EM A PET CEMETARY TO THE CONTRARY!!
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2010, 04:24:14 PM »
Tragic story Pablo, glad you protected yourself. Sorry for the loss of your dogs.  Any medium/large breed can be dangerous, if allowed to.

I was attacked by none of the breeds you listed.  Irish Setter mix, and a Lab mix.  Had a Doberman, and it was raised and trained in a loving family environment. My little sister used to hang, pull, lay on, and otherwise harass a Warlock 125lb Doberman, that saved her life, and had absolute unconditional love for our family.

Any dog can go "bad".
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2010, 06:51:01 PM »
I found this while watching the dog attack video and thought it was funny.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPENzKOmOl0&NR=1

As for the issue at hand, I've had personal experience with the grabbing of the bottom jaw.  Granted it was a mostly non aggressive puppy, but once I had grabbed the lower jaw, he half-yelped and tried to pull away.  Now this is not a scientific study by any stretch of the imagination. 

As for pulling a CCW gun.  If you did watch the video that was offered earlier, you will notice that there would have been a downward trajectory for any bullet fired.  This doesn't take into account for possible ricochets, but, again, downward. 

This was also a LEO so he had open carry options.  If drawing from CC you would need to be both more aware of your situation than the average bear and quick like bunny. 

If I was in the situation I would think I would shoot, but in flash situations like this, you would react, not think.  I would have to tend to think it works on the the firstest with the mostest concept.  It works in everything from gun fights to thermo-nuclear war.  Just to throw another adage on the campfire, its always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.  Bang!  Dead dog.
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2010, 06:55:44 PM »
 Carrying at home should also cut down on the excessive nagging as well  ;D

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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2010, 07:46:41 PM »
Condolences Pablo.  In this subdivision out in the sticks that I live in some people down the road had a pit bull...it made the mistake of running up to my porch steps and growling at me.

People can talk that Dog Whisperer stuff all they want...I dunno, I don't care, if a dog is a threat to life and limb it's not my responsiblity to train the dog it's my responsibility to take care of my family and myself. 
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2010, 10:57:47 AM »
Carrying at home should also cut down on the excessive nagging as well  ;D

If not, there's always divorce.  ;D
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Re: Why You Should Carry Even To Your Own Families House.
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2010, 10:58:57 AM »
Condolences Pablo.  In this subdivision out in the sticks that I live in some people down the road had a pit bull...it made the mistake of running up to my porch steps and growling at me.

People can talk that Dog Whisperer stuff all they want...I dunno, I don't care, if a dog is a threat to life and limb it's not my responsiblity to train the dog it's my responsibility to take care of my family and myself. 


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