Whats the Purpose of a DA 1911?

[tombogan03884]

OK, I can't let this one go.  Safer?  From a gun with a short movement trigger with a low pull weight (1911)?  The only Safer I'll give you is it's safer if no one is around the gun, as the 1911 has both the backstrap and trigger vs just the trigger on the glock.  If one is holding the gun, I'd say the glock is safer, and most all NDs happen when someone has their hand on the gun.

I was going to ask about that comment as well until I realized he was talking about the grip safety.
If Plaxico Burris had been carrying a 1911 he would not be in jail, as his Glock slid down the leg of his sweats, (Mexican carry is SUCH a good idea ) he tried to catch it and his finger hooked the trigger, a grip safety would have prevented him shooting himself, but the Glock went bang.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpgL5kuBpMA

[Overload]

I was going to ask about that comment as well until I realized he was talking about the grip safety.
If Plaxico Burris had been carrying a 1911 he would not be in jail, as his Glock slid down the leg of his sweats, (Mexican carry is SUCH a good idea ) he tried to catch it and his finger hooked the trigger, a grip safety would have prevented him shooting himself, but the Glock went bang.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpgL5kuBpMA

I think there should be a gun handling rule that says, "Don't try to catch a falling/moving gun."  This rule should be before the 'No gun twirling' rule or the 'don't paint the metal parts of your gun' rule.

[Michael Bane]

Overload, when the nut holding the gun is too loose...cocked-and-locked does frighten some people, including most of the police departments in the U.S. I don't like Condition 1 for pocket pistols (like the Mustang/Sig 238) or for off-body carry in a bag unless secured in a fitted holster that covers the trigger — Murphy works wonders! Interestingly enough, I think the original Colt Double Eagle failed because it got compared far too often to the superb Sig 220, which was everything the Colt wasn't. Also interesting that before the Double Eagle and the availability of the Sig, people spent mucho bucks for a Seecamp DA conversion on full-sized 1911s (http://www.m1911.org/seecamp.htm; http://www.seecamp.com/companyhistory.htm). From the Seecam site:

"This conversion, done during a period when the single-action versus double-action controversy was at its peak, resulted in the first commercially available DA .45 autoloaders anywhere in the world. Nearly 2000 such DA conversions were done from the early 70s to the early 80s. Ludwig [Seecamp] had become a firm believer in the value of DA after a Walther P-38 saved his life in WWII."

I've shot several of the original Seecamps, and they were...interesting. There was a real frenzy for DAs back in the late '70s. I got my hands on my first 220 around 1981, a German police gun with black plastic grips and a European butt-mounted mag release. Man, I wish I still had that gun! In a moment of weakness I swapped it for a NIB Browning High Power .40 Combat.

Michael B

[bbbean]

I wish they could figure out a DA/SA 1911.  That would be my dream as I am used to Beretta 96's and absolutely love that firearm, but want a 1911 purely for asthetic reasons.

That sounds like the worst of both worlds! Inconsistent trigger pull, plus low capacity! Kind of like the El Camino - the low clearance and limited power of a car combined with the limited seating and unsecured cargo of a truck!

I agree with the OP. If you want a DA pull, get a revolver or one of the fine DA/striker fired guns out there.

[Distinguished Master]

To meet the requirements of new .gov and leo contracts would be my guess.

I have been thinking about the Para LDA also.  The main reason is because of the "public".  Administrators hear sooo many complaints from them there afraid of losing tax dollars, we had to hide our shotguns from "public view" because it too scary looking for them [so we went to the overhead rack], and heaven forbid, our AR-15 had to be kept in the trunk.

First OB must go, then all the lawyers, followed by a BIG jump backwards to follow our consitution as written.  Set term limits,
jion your local 9/12 group, support the NRA, and move the country back to "common sence" days.

[Sponsor]

[m25operator]

It seems to me some of the logic about military or Leo requirements have merit, but for the Joe shooter, it is not using the manual safety, just grab and go, now I have felt the older DA 1911's like the double eagle and the seecamp, awefully heavy pulls, the Para LDA system is really good, and you have the option of leaving the safety off, or engaging the manual safety, the other 1911 safeties apply. The LDA system is a much lighter trigger pull. It does not provide for second strike capability like the aforementioned, but works very well.

[Skeezix]

I am not sure of the reason either, as the Sig P200 is far superior anyway!!!

[Overload]

I use an LDA in competition, so I want to EDC one.  Should I carry it cocked and locked?

[Trident Firearms]

Here is where the entrepreneur, or capitalist, in me comes out -

I think the purpose is to see if it sells.  If there is a market for it someone will make it.  If there is not a market for something someone has made than try to make a market.

[Big Frank]

I use an LDA in competition, so I want to EDC one.  Should I carry it cocked and locked?

Uncocked and locked. You can't manually cock it.