Empty Chamber Indicators

[philw]

do you guys use them at the ranges over there


they are bringing it in here   for something new



what do you think of them

[TAB]

on some guns yes, take the nylon 66 for example, its really hard to see from a distance if its safe or not.   they are pretty much used on auto rifles.  most other guns its really easy to tell from a distance if they are "safe" or not.

[Walter45Auto]

I've only seen very few guys use something like that. The ones they use are smaller; the little orange ones that come with one of the major AR15 rifles (DPMS or Bushmaster, I think.) Most people don't use them that I've seen.

[ellis4538]

Our range requires that the slide is locked open (and the SA be on its left side so the chamber can be seen) and/or the cyl. is open.  They also require us to carry to the shooting bench from where we take guns out of our bags in a muzzle up position.  Rules are rules.  Empty chamber indicators are fine for what they are used for and I would use them if required.

Richard

[Pathfinder]

The Appleseed shoots requires them, but then they provide them. I've used them on occasion to make a point about safety. Other than that, no.

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[Badgersmilk]

First I'd seen something like that, but seems like a good idea when you consider some of the people at ranges.  I've seen watchful range guards catch several people and ream them out for loaded chambers over the years.  All of them argued with some excuse or another that they were different, and in the right.   

[BAC]

They gave me one of those when I bought my CMP carbine.  Apparently they use them at Camp Perry?

[tombogan03884]

We used them in Boot Camp, I haven't seen one in use since.

[alfsauve]

Required at NRA matches.   Watch TV coverage and you'll see them.  Some ranges require them all the time as well.

From NRA Conventional Pistol Rule book.

3.21 Empty Chamber Indicator (ECI) - An ECI is required in all NRA Sanctioned Pistol competitions to
indicate the slide is open and the chamber is empty. The ECI, when inserted into the revolver or pistol must extend
into the empty chamber or cylinder and must be externally visible.

Same rule in the High Powered Rifle (Camp Perry) rules.

Regardless that is says ECI is "required in all NRA Sanctioned Pistol competitions"   this rule is NOT listed in the Action Pistol rule book.   I must be OCD because this type of inconsistency drives me up the wall.

[Fatman]

One came with my DPMS - red 'J' shaped piece of plastic.  Frankly, I'm not sure about it's thermo properties - not sure if it's ok to use in a hot chamber.