Gunfighting From Your Vehicle

[cjwise5]

I did a search hoping this had been discussed before - didn't find anything so I'm asking the question.
I have very little experience with this.  Only the minimal training that the average county Sheriff's dept. can afford.
Here goes:  ( maybe one of the trainers can help narrow this down for me)

Stay seated? Get out? Under what circumstances?
Ambushed? Carjacking?  If the badguy is at your window - use a knife instead?
Run the guy over?  Drive away?

The only thing that seems painfully obvious to me is to make a choice - Fight or drive, can't do both.

[tombogan03884]

 Fight or drive are not the choices, the choice is fight with several 230 grain or less projectiles or one 300,000 grain projectile.
If the bad guy is "Right at your window" If the situation is bad enough to stab him it is bad enough to shoot him , repeatedly.

[m25operator]

CJ last years Best Defense, Rob Pincus did an excellent, although short section on video about fighting from inside a vehicle, I could not find it either, although I thought the video section was on here some where.

My thoughts are drive if you can ( create distance, possibly escape ), fight if you can't, make sure your duty rig allows you to draw seated with a seat belt on, if not and department rules allow, change it, or have a back up in a position that you can draw from that position. Knife is last ditch effort, carry one, but hope it does not get to that point.

Maybe Rob will chime in.

[GUNS-R-US]

CJ last years Best Defense, Rob Pincus did an excellent, although short section on video about fighting from inside a vehicle, I could not find it either, although I thought the video section was on here some where.

My thoughts are drive if you can ( create distance, possibly escape ), fight if you can't, make sure your duty rig allows you to draw seated with a seat belt on, if not and department rules allow, change it, or have a back up in a position that you can draw from that position. Knife is last ditch effort, carry one, but hope it does not get to that point.

Maybe Rob will chime in.

Exactly what m25 said!!

That's of corse is if your thinking of a personal SD situation. If your coming from an LEO perspective it might be a little different. I carry a knife but its for opening boxes cutting rope ect., I'm going to use my gun in a knife fight before i use a knife in a knife fight. Hell I'll probably going to run like frightened school girl if I'm within knife cutting range! Distance is your friend! Gives you options. And I like options!!

[ericire12]

Drive or shoot.... dont try to do both

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[GUNS-R-US]

I think it might be best to say Drive if you can, Shoot if you have to!

[m25operator]

Not on thread, but 20 yrs ago, here in Dallas there was a car chase, perp shot a state trooper and he had to bail while chasing the perp, this was from 2 moving vehicles. One of my hometown cops, ( Garland ) picked up the chase down I30 east bound, shot the perp at 100 mph, weakhanded out the window across the windshield. Headshot, I got to hear the audio from the chase, because a co workers mom, was the girlfriend of the cop, and he had a copy on cassette.  Lucky? you bet, but bragging rights for years.

[twyacht]

As a lefty, I have always tried to think about my strong hand, and holstered weapon coming up along side the driver side door, and having to fend off an in your face BG with my weak hand. Or bringing the muzzle to target up the door and canted "outboard" to engage.  As a southpaw, I have to "adjust".

On longer drives, I unholster, and place the pistol in a centered position, and practice weak hand drills often. Especially drive up ATM's, which I avoid at night or in "questionable" areas. Or watch my mirrors, even at a Drive thru McDonalds, etc,...

If given a no time to respond scenario, I'm gonna get low and punch it.  My reaction time to the gas pedal, is going to be faster, than drawing my weapon.

but variables always come into the picture. Rob, or MB would probably have a valid suggestion also.

[ellis4538]

If I was in the position where I thought I would need to shoot from my car/truck I believe I would get a pair of in the ear hearing protectors which automatically shut off a portion of the blast from gunfire yet still allowed me to hear.  It can be bad with let alone without.  I wouldn't want to take a chance with what hearing I have left.

JMHO

Richard

PS:  No, I don't believe there is a high percentage chance I would have to around where I live.

[m25operator]

IN Robs scenario, I asked him about that, had to be very loud, as he shot through a window, + the percussion from the enclosed space, I would do it, but know the price is high.