Amazon Kindle books to be pulled

[blackwolfe]

I have no desire for any kind of e-reader.  Don't really care for most of the new techno phone stuff.  Haveing said that I do have a cell phone that came with more features than what I use and a basic GPS. 

[tombogan03884]

 I settle for just being able to make a phone call 

[Solus]

Since I am NOT all that techno savy.... I have to ask...does the Kindle hook up to your computer say like via a USB cord?

Is the electronic version of book in the same format as say if you wanted to read a book on your regular desk top computer?

Is there a back door way to take the e-book off your Kindle or copy it to your desk top....or to a DVD data disk?

I would be ticked if I bought an e-book and then the next time I went to hook the whole sha-bang to the internet, all my other e-Books went POOF!

 

I'd be expecting a refund from Amazon, and I am thinking there are enough Amazon Kindle users out there that they could definitely leverage the threat of a class action lawsuit into making Amazon cough up the dough.

The format of the e-book is proprietary to Kindle, but they have a free downloadable reader for a PC and seem for MAC...they say

The Kindle does connect to a PC using an USB port and you can "backup" your e-documents.  You don't have to keep all you have on the Kindle.  You can manage them as a PC file.

Amazon does keep track of what you bought, so you can lose your Kindle and your backups and retrieve everything, assuming it hasn't been "recalled".

There is 3rd party software available that allows you to better manage your Kindle on the PC side. 

The latest version of the Kindle software will read PDF files and you could convert them to Kindle format if you wanted Kindle pagination features for it.

You can load your text files to your kindle by sending them to an email address you are provided with and they will be converted an for free.

I think that covered it all?

[philw]

Yep  that got it Solus




http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/01/31/ipad_debut_ignites_price_war_between_amazon_and_publisher_macmillan.html

Amazon stopped selling print and e-books from publisher Macmillan this weekend over a price dispute, just days after Apple introduced the iPad and its own iBookstore for e-books.

According to The Wall Street Journal, Macmillan CEO John Sargent visited Amazon Thursday to negotiate a new deal for e-book sales. Talks apparently did not go well, as he was later informed that his company's books would only be available for sale through third parties on Amazon.com.

"Amazon, the leading e-book seller in the world, now faces the prospect of publishers demanding the same terms they receive from Apple," the Journal wrote. "People familiar with Amazon's action said the move by the online retailer, which targets not only e-books but hardcover and paperback titles, signals its unhappiness with the prospect that e-book prices may rise in coming months as a result of Apple's e-book debut."

Just days earlier, Apple co-founder Steve Jobs had a conversation with Journal tech reporter Walt Mossberg in which he said that iPad book prices would be "the same" as the cost of e-book content for Amazon's Kindle. Currently, Kindle bestsellers go for $9.99, but a previous report said Apple wanted to offer bestsellers for between $12.99 and $14.99.

The apparent troubles between Macmillan and Amazon suggests that Jobs' comments to Mossberg were meant to imply that Amazon book prices would eventually increase to match higher costs on the iPad. Jobs also noted taht book publishers were "withholding their books from Amazon, because they're not happy with it."

On Wednesday, Macmillan was highlighted as one of five high-profile book publishers that would be a part of the iBookstore, a marketplace within the new iPad iBooks application. Apple's iBookstore business strategy allegedly employs the same 70-30 split in favor of content providers as the existing iPhone App Store.

"It is expected that publishers will now seek to do business with Amazon and other e-book retailers on the same terms as with Apple," the Journal wrote. "By setting their own prices, publishers would be able to eliminate discounting on Amazon and elsewhere that they believe threatens the long-term business model of publishing."

[ccd]

IIRC all of the current generation of e-readers in the US are able to download content through the various wireless companies that is paid through the initial cost of the e-reader and the cost of the downloaded content.

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[Fatman]

IIRC all of the current generation of e-readers in the US are able to download content through the various wireless companies that is paid through the initial cost of the e-reader and the cost of the downloaded content.

Kindle will d/l via a 3G wireless connection, included in the price of the reader. Ipad does not include tha tin the price. think it was estmated at $150 extra.

[LoveMyXds]

LovemyXDs showed me his phone/ communicator, I forget what brand he said it was but it's basically a laptop computer that fits in a shirt pocket, with phone. He was telling me that he has not used his actual computer in months, We were sitting at the counter in the local Coffee shop and he was logged in here.
Seems like the thing that limits miniaturization is the key board, it has to be large enough to be usable.

Hey Tom....
My phone is the Motorola Droid... It is pretty much the cat's ass... It's a phone, a GREAT GPS (turn by turn, voice control and even a topographic, street or satelite view... even shows you a street view of your destination 360 degrees.) The web browser does everything except Flash (but that is coming in a month or so.) It also has Adobe Acrobat so it reads ebooks too! It isn't a replacement for a desktop, but for 99 percent of my usage online it is fine! The only drawback like you said is the keyboard, the keys are too tiny for my ham hands, but the touch screen keyboard is pretty good once you get used to it. You can also use the voice recognition software which is very good, but walking around talking at your phone is kinda weird to me!

In a nutshell..... the Droid is the best thing that ever happened to taking a dump since toilet paper!

I haven't seen a Kindle yet, and the Ipad looks like a tablet PC, a Netbook and an IPod Touch had a threesome and no one knows who the daddy is! The Kindle is meant for reading, the Ipad is a multimedia device. The Kindle has amazing battery life by all accounts, because it uses a screen called "digital ink" It only uses power to change the page rather than to display a redrawn screen sixty times a second. Most Kindle owners are older too... they want to read books, not see FACEBOOK pals do stupid things on YouTube!

Cheers,
Scott

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Hey Tom....
My phone is the Motorola Droid... It is pretty much the cat's ass... It's a phone, a GREAT GPS (turn by turn, voice control and even a topographic, street or satelite view... even shows you a street view of your destination 360 degrees.) The web browser does everything except Flash (but that is coming in a month or so.) It also has Adobe Acrobat so it reads ebooks too! It isn't a replacement for a desktop, but for 99 percent of my usage online it is fine! The only drawback like you said is the keyboard, the keys are too tiny for my ham hands, but the touch screen keyboard is pretty good once you get used to it. You can also use the voice recognition software which is very good, but walking around talking at your phone is kinda weird to me!

In a nutshell..... the Droid is the best thing that ever happened to taking a dump since toilet paper!

I haven't seen a Kindle yet, and the Ipad looks like a tablet PC, a Netbook and an IPod Touch had a threesome and no one knows who the daddy is! The Kindle is meant for reading, the Ipad is a multimedia device. The Kindle has amazing battery life by all accounts, because it uses a screen called "digital ink" It only uses power to change the page rather than to display a redrawn screen sixty times a second. Most Kindle owners are older too... they want to read books, not see FACEBOOK pals do stupid things on YouTube!

Cheers,
Scott

note to self: never barrow his phone.

[philw]

I haven't seen a Kindle yet, and the Ipad looks like a tablet PC, a Netbook and an IPod Touch had a threesome and no one knows who the daddy is! The Kindle is meant for reading, the Ipad is a multimedia device. The Kindle has amazing battery life by all accounts, because it uses a screen called "digital ink" It only uses power to change the page rather than to display a redrawn screen sixty times a second. Most Kindle owners are older too... they want to read books, not see FACEBOOK pals do stupid things on YouTube!

Cheers,
Scott

I agree


one thing with the iPad    people are trying to compare it to what is out now

however it is pitched at a new space in the market  not something that is out now  like the did with MP3 Players and iPods 
I agree the battery life is different however they are completely different devices



will I get one...  not sure  as I have enough crap  and would rather get more guns than another bit of tech

however yep will use them  as that is what I do.

[philw]

Update ***
the word from Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/tag/kindle/forum/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1D7SY3BVSESG&cdThread=Tx2MEGQWTNGIMHV&displayType=tagsDetail
http://www.amazon.com/tag/kindle/forum/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1D7SY3BVSESG&cdThread=Tx2MEGQWTNGIMHV&displayType=tagsDetail

Dear Customers:

Macmillan, one of the "big six" publishers, has clearly communicated to us that, regardless of our viewpoint, they are committed to switching to an agency model and charging $12.99 to $14.99 for e-book versions of bestsellers and most hardcover releases.

We have expressed our strong disagreement and the seriousness of our disagreement by temporarily ceasing the sale of all Macmillan titles. We want you to know that ultimately, however, we will have to capitulate and accept Macmillan's terms because Macmillan has a monopoly over their own titles, and we will want to offer them to you even at prices we believe are needlessly high for e-books. Amazon customers will at that point decide for themselves whether they believe it's reasonable to pay $14.99 for a bestselling e-book. We don't believe that all of the major publishers will take the same route as Macmillan. And we know for sure that many independent presses and self-published authors will see this as an opportunity to provide attractively priced e-books as an alternative.

Kindle is a business for Amazon, and it is also a mission. We never expected it to be easy!

Thank you for being a customer.