Amazon Kindle books to be pulled

[jaybet]

Amazon sucks... writers, musicians, etc. get a crap deal from them and they get what they deserve.

[r_w]

Amazon is the Walmart of media--our way or the highway.  It is really a strange day when Apple is the more open company??

[Tyler Durden]

I know I am like really frugal...okay...okay...I am a cheap @$$.

I just go to the libray with my library card, and get books for....hey, get this...for free.

 

[seeker_two]

I know I am like really frugal...okay...okay...I am a cheap @$$.

I just go to the libray with my library card, and get books for....hey, get this...for free.

 

Socialist!....do you think that wisdom can be shared for FREE?  Would great men like Alexander or Napoleon waste time with libraries ?   

[tombogan03884]

Um, yes  if they had had them. Lincoln sure would have   

[Sponsor]

[LoveMyXds]

Um, yes  if they had had them. Lincoln sure would have   

Benefits Franklin and some of his Masonic Pals created America's first lending library in Philadelphia.....

[fightingquaker13]

Let me speak up on behalf of the Ivory Tower, Capitalists, or old farts here, take your pick. I get paid (in theory) to write. In academia, we make nothing as our books and articles are read by dozens. Our reward, come salary time, is how many folks cite our works.  Writing, or composing is hard work (ask Jay Bet). If people won't pay, I won't do it. Even the Youtube stuff will dry up as folks are just hoping to get noticed. You want stuff for free? You get what you pay for. Lets assume an author gets 15% of the gross, at $10 per 1,000 page novel, I'll have to sell twice as many as if they went for $20 hardcover. And who wants to read 1,000 pages on the PC? What happens when the website goes down, or the technology changes (yet again) and I have to buy and learn a new system? I am too damn old to fool with it. I want to buy and own a decent book, or at least check it out of a library (which pays a lot more than retail for the right to lend it out). I tend to reread stuff after a year or two has passed. Hell, I just got done reconquering the world for the UK and kicking Napolean's arse, with Patrick O'Brien for about the third time. I didn't have to download anything. Just open the damn books. Nations that safeguard intellectual property flourish as they nurture creativity. Those that don't make bargain basement knockoffs. See which gets you further long term. Screw this. Shortchange writers, muscians and inventors and you better like the world as it is now, as its not going to get any better. Rant over.
FQ13

[Solus]

Let me speak up on behalf of the Ivory Tower, Capitalists, or old farts here, take your pick. I get paid (in theory) to write. In academia, we make nothing as our books and articles are read by dozens. Our reward, come salary time, is how many folks cite our works.  Writing, or composing is hard work (ask Jay Bet). If people won't pay, I won't do it. Even the Youtube stuff will dry up as folks are just hoping to get noticed. You want stuff for free? You get what you pay for. Lets assume an author gets 15% of the gross, at $10 per 1,000 page novel, I'll have to sell twice as many as if they went for $20 hardcover. And who wants to read 1,000 pages on the PC? What happens when the website goes down, or the technology changes (yet again) and I have to buy and learn a new system? I am too damn old to fool with it. I want to buy and own a decent book, or at least check it out of a library (which pays a lot more than retail for the right to lend it out). I tend to reread stuff after a year or two has passed. Hell, I just got done reconquering the world for the UK and kicking Napolean's arse, with Patrick O'Brien for about the third time. I didn't have to download anything. Just open the damn books. Nations that safeguard intellectual property flourish as they nurture creativity. Those that don't make bargain basement knockoffs. See which gets you further long term. Screw this. Shortchange writers, muscians and inventors and you better like the world as it is now, as its not going to get any better. Rant over.
FQ13

FQ. first, I'm not sure I understand your example of a book selling for $10 and you needing to sell twice as many if it sells for $20 hard cover?  From how I understood it is if you get 15% of the gross you will get twice as much from the same sales at $20 than at $10?

Second, I also read a lot and often reread books several times, sometimes years later.  That is why I prefer the Kindle.  Over the years my Hard Copy library has suffered loss, damage moving and space constraints that has cost me some of the works.

With the Kindle, I can have as many books as I have the storage capacity to handle and since they can be stored on PC media, it is limited the the number of DVDs I dedicate to the library.

A record is kept at Amazon so I am able to redownload when needed.  Of course this is subject to the fortunes of Amazon.

With the Kindle, I am able to keep 100 books with me.  I am able to have book marks in all of them.  I am able to mark passages and make notes and all that is kept with the book.

I am able to highlight any word and the definition of that word is displayed.

I have downloaded for free many of the classics. 

I thought I would miss having the hard copy in my hands...they feel of the book and the smell of paper and leather in some cases.  This has not happened.  I find the Kindle format much easier to read, more convenient.  Actually, when I read a hard copy book, I find myself pressing where the Kindle Next Page button would be and, smilingly, put off by the delay of needing to Manually turn a page.

I am happy with my Kindle

[fightingquaker13]

Solus
As to the math thing, its about selling E books vs hard copy and the demand. Lets say 1,000 people want to read my book. I make half as much if they buy E-books vs hard copy if the price is half as much. As to the trusting a website to stay inbusiness vs having the thing in my my hand and reflexively hitting the "next page" key? I guessing you're way under 40. Either that or I'm old before my time.
FQ13 who doesn't stick needles in his music, but increasingly respects those who do. cf my earlier posts in re. "Old Hippie" by the Bellamy Brothers.

[Solus]

Solus
As to the math thing, its about selling E books vs hard copy and the demand. Lets say 1,000 people want to read my book. I make half as much if they buy E-books vs hard copy if the price is half as much. As to the trusting a website to stay inbusiness vs having the thing in my my hand and reflexively hitting the "next page" key? I guessing you're way under 40. Either that or I'm old before my time.
FQ13 who doesn't stick needles in his music, but increasingly respects those who do. cf my earlier posts in re. "Old Hippie" by the Bellamy Brothers.

Ok..I understand the math example.  Not sure the author should be paid a % of the printing and distribution costs for hard copy.

I did read your Old Hippie post and have been a Hippie wannabe forever.  I just love the Ideal, but realize it will never be possible this side of Eden.  And, Junior, I will be 63 next month.