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Re: Druids and Wiccans at the U.S. Air Force Academy
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2010, 10:53:15 PM »
Like Calithump he's just talking out his Pelosi, not from knowledge.

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Re: Druids and Wiccans at the U.S. Air Force Academy
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2010, 12:38:59 AM »
     I don't know much about the USAF, But I do know my share about Wiccan/Druids as I am one...Alot of people in history had considered themselves Pacifist before someone else came along and p*ss*d them off. One thought all should consider about religions. Most all pale men of european decent came from a Pagan Religion. It wasn't until the Roman Catholics conquered the Pagan Races of Europe and forced Christianity or death on them did white men accept the new religion. Also, On my mother's side I am Native American. So no where in my ancestry was I ever meant to be Christian. Doesn't mean I don't respect other peoples religions. But before you make comments about them, you should learn a little about it first. And like most pacifist, I'm relly easy going until someone ruins my calm...(Don't tread on me)...
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Re: Druids and Wiccans at the U.S. Air Force Academy
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2010, 02:20:50 AM »
These type of discussions always seem to open a can of worms. With that said it's one thing to have freedom to pray and worship what ever God a person wants. But the line should be drawn there. No feet washing, incense burning, sacred cows, Ouija boards, or other "ceremonies" requiring added equipment to perform. This can get out of control real quick otherwise.

I'm sorry but I have a very large problem with Muslims in general. There has never been a "religion" in modern times that has caused so much death, pain, and controversy, world wide. It's getting worse by the day. It's only a matter of time before we or Israel start shooting in Iran. Why?, one word, Muslims and their eternal hatred for Christians. These people do not believe in live and let live. I get so tired of hearing how "All Muslims aren't bad", yet 99.9% of all terrorists are in fact Muslim. We are at war with these people, and they have zero place in our military. It simply is not worth the risk. We took that risk at Ft. Hood and we all saw what happened. It will happen again, and next time it will be worse.

There are approximately 1.3 BILLION Muslims worldwide. If only 1% of them are radical that equates to 13,000,000 (read 13 MILLION) radical followers of Islam. My guess is that number is far greater. That people, is a very real and dangerous threat that we as a country are foolish to be embracing, simply to provide us with some abstract way of being politically correct. It's going to wind up getting a lot of innocent people killed.   Bill T.


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Re: Druids and Wiccans at the U.S. Air Force Academy
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2010, 06:05:49 AM »
Let me reflect the facts. I was quoting Tom when I used the phrase "pacifist queers" that M'ette quoted. I will go back and put quotes around the phrase.

For the record, I have only known a handful of self-professed druids, and no wiccans that I am aware of. The handful I knew were "pacifist queers", real new agey types. Not the "queer" part in the sense of homosexual, but "queer" as in just not right, really odd. And definitely pacifist. YMMV

Personally, I was always drawn to the Japanese Shinto spirituality, and no one ever accused the Japanese samurai of being "pacifist queers". Of course, they also had Zen Buddhism to help with the warrior stuff!   ;D

Even after my salvation, Shinto holds a special place in my heart. Now, though, I pay homage to my Lord and Savior for the natural creation rather than a gang of nymphs, nyriads, sprites, goblins (hob or otherwise) or gnomes. Since He commands that I have no other Gods before Him, how can I do otherwise?
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Re: Druids and Wiccans at the U.S. Air Force Academy
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2010, 06:57:29 AM »
When I was in high school in denver back in, oh my god, 2002, I had several friends who were wiccan. On a personal the ones I knew were nice and generally respectable people, but, even during 9/11 (and I know it because we all sat in class watching it) pissed me off with their indifference to the events. Given that age came into play but that left a general distrust for the culture surrounding the religion. Lastly, why does it seem that every year anything that comes along claiming to be a religion just falls into the ever growing "appease them" bucket? Next we will be recognizing the church of Al Gore and the whole green movement will get everything it wants on the grounds of religious appeasement.
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Re: Druids and Wiccans at the U.S. Air Force Academy
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Re: Druids and Wiccans at the U.S. Air Force Academy
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2010, 10:45:44 AM »
To the best of my knowledge I know only one wiccan, and this person could HARDLY be described as a "pacifist queer", nor either of the two terms on it's own.  You might be surprised by those among us who are wiccan.  For the most part they don't seem to advertise the fact. 

Back to the original topic, I agree with my running mate.....1st Amendment covers it....end of discussion.  Everything beyond that is personal opinion, or simple ignorance.

As far as a comparison between wiccans and muslims..........last I knew, wiccans weren't trying to kill us.

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Re: Druids and Wiccans at the U.S. Air Force Academy
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2010, 10:57:31 AM »
Yeah, but you get to sleep in barracks/semi-private rooms almost everywhere you go.  ;D My brother was in the AF and was stationed in Iceland. Got to watch the poor grunts bivouac in the snow from the comfort of his room - where he had to crack the window because it was too hot.
Just remember this, The Air Force GOES to Iceland, (had an Uncle stationed there in the early 50's ).
Except for the Embassy personnel the Marines left in 1941 and haven't been back since  ;D
(No Swamps, they don't send Marines places that don't have swamps, that's why they were operating along the Euphrates in Iraq, that's where the mud was )  ;D

I was stationed in Iceland....there WERE Marines there (though not many) and they had a barracks just like mine.  Not once in my 364 days on the "Rock" did they have to live outside!  Humans don't do well in 50-60 below zero....  It was a US Naval Air Station since 1961, not an Air Force facility.

It is now closed and returned back to the Icelandic people.

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Re: Druids and Wiccans at the U.S. Air Force Academy
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2010, 07:51:46 PM »
Glad to see it! Wiccan priest right here on DRTV! Nope, not a pacifist not even queer (but Mrs. Addict might well say I am a bit goofy :D).
For those unfamiliar with the religion there is quite a big difference between a fluffy bunny new ager and a Traditional pagan. Frankly dont see how my faith wouldnt fit well in the military.
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Re: Druids and Wiccans at the U.S. Air Force Academy
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2010, 08:32:12 PM »
Glad to see the board is a bit more religiouslly diverse than I thought. I thought folks were giving me a hard time becase I'm a theologically liberal Christian. As I've said before, as long as you support the 2a and the Constitution, the rest of it isn't my business.
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Re: Druids and Wiccans at the U.S. Air Force Academy
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2010, 08:50:08 PM »
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

No problem here.....

I'm sure, being of Celtic and Norse bloodlines, there is a Druid in my ancestry anyway... ;)

 

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