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Coming to America Unless We Defeat Obama
« on: January 31, 2010, 04:54:27 PM »
Russian police break up protests, scores detained


MOSCOW (AP) — Russian police broke up anti-Kremlin protests in Moscow and St. Petersburg on Sunday, and detained more than 100 demonstrators, including several opposition leaders.

In Moscow, several hundred demonstrators gathered in a central square, defying a ban imposed by authorities. The protesters said their rally was banned in violation of the Russian constitution's guarantee of the right to gather.

They denounced the policies of President Dmitry Medvedev and his predecessor and mentor Vladimir Putin, who continues to wield broad powers as Russia's prime minister.

Protesters shouted "Shame!" and "Down with Putin!" as Moscow police in riot gear pushed them into buses. Several dozen protesters were detained, including opposition leaders Boris Nemtsov, Eduard Limonov, Ilya Yashin, and the head of the Memorial rights group, Oleg Orlov.

Police spokesman Viktor Biryukov said about 300 people took part in the Moscow rally and about 100 were detained.

Police quickly dispersed a similar rally in St. Petersburg, detaining most of several dozen protesters who gathered on a downtown Nevsky Prospect. Some of the demonstrators were beaten with truncheons.

Protests also were held Sunday in Yekaterinburg, Russia's third-largest city, in the Ural Mountains; in Krasnoyarsk in central Siberia; and in the far eastern port of Vladivostok. Police didn't move to break them up, according to Ekho Moskvy radio.

Similar opposition demonstrations were held in Moscow on the last days of July, August and October. The timing is a nod to the 31st Article of the Russian constitution, which guarantees the right of assembly.

Each time, the city authorities banned the rallies, saying that some other events would be held in the area on that day.

Sunday's protest in Moscow attracted more participants than previous rallies. Opposition leaders said they hope an even larger number will attend a protest on the last day of March.

Russian authorities have shown little tolerance of dissent, banning most opposition rallies and sending riot police to detain protesters.
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Re: Coming to America Unless We Defeat Obama
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2010, 05:53:54 PM »
 Czar to Commisar to Criminal oligarchy, nothing much changes, it's still a dictatorship.

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Re: Coming to America Unless We Defeat Obama
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2010, 08:55:31 AM »
Autarchy, Orthodoxy and Mother Russia. It was the rallying cry of the tsars and has never changed.
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Re: Coming to America Unless We Defeat Obama
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2010, 09:52:06 AM »
Autarchy, Orthodoxy and Mother Russia. It was the rallying cry of the tsars and has never changed.
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But Odamna is your boy, FQ.  And didn't you mean "Autocracy?"
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Re: Coming to America Unless We Defeat Obama
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2010, 10:19:40 AM »
But Odamna is your boy, FQ.  And didn't you mean "Autocracy?"
Actually no, on both counts. Autarchy and autacracy are mostly synonomous, but two different words with two shades of meaning. Autocracy, like  democracy can mean a whole lot of things. Autarchy connotates a strong and solitary ruler, but also freedom collectivelly, from outside interference. Essentially national self-determination under a central ruler. Still one guy in charge, but with a nationalist undertone. The Trars had a thesaurus handy. Too bad the Germas had one too,Ein Riech, Ein Volk, Ein Furher. :-\ ;). As to the second he was never my "boy', its just that he seemed less bad than the alternative at the time.
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Re: Coming to America Unless We Defeat Obama
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Re: Coming to America Unless We Defeat Obama
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2010, 11:47:18 AM »
 It was a side effect of TO MUCH Glock Kool ade  ;D

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Re: Coming to America Unless We Defeat Obama
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2010, 11:55:27 AM »
Actually no, on both counts. Autarchy and autacracy are mostly synonomous, but two different words with two shades of meaning. Autocracy, like  democracy can mean a whole lot of things. Autarchy connotates a strong and solitary ruler, but also freedom collectivelly, from outside interference. Essentially national self-determination under a central ruler. Still one guy in charge, but with a nationalist undertone. The Trars had a thesaurus handy. Too bad the Germas had one too,Ein Riech, Ein Volk, Ein Furher. :-\ ;). As to the second he was never my "boy', its just that he seemed less bad than the alternative at the time.
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You are perfect as a college professor - speaking out of both sides of your mouth.
"Autarchy and autocracy are mostly synonomous (sic), but two different words with two shades of meaning."
and then "Autocracy, like  democracy can mean a whole lot of things"
followed by "Autarchy connotates (sic) a strong and solitary ruler, ..." (and no it doesn't see below)

So if they're mostly synonymous, then autarchy can also "mean a whole lot of things" - but it doesn't. And most of the literary sources do not agree with your interpretation of the word "autarchy".

Webster's autarchy definition (Collins and American Heritage dictionaries concur):

au·tar·chy (ô′tär′kē)

noun pl. autarchies -·chies

   1. absolute rule or sovereignty; autocracy
   2. a country under such rule
   3. autarky

Etymology: Gr autarchia < autarchos, autocrat, absolute ruler < autos, self + archos: see arch-

Related Forms:

    * autarchic au·tar′·chic adjective or autarchical au·tar′·chi·cal

Webster's New World College Dictionary Copyright © 2009 by Wiley Publishing, Inc., Cleveland, Ohio.
Used by arrangement with John Wiley & Sons, Inc.

Wiki sees it more akin to anarchy:

"Autarchism
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"Autarchy" redirects here. For the closed economy, see Autarky

Autarchism (from Greek, "belief in self rule") is a political philosophy that upholds the principle of individual liberty, rejects compulsory government, and supports the elimination of government in favor of ruling yourself and no other. Advocates of the philosophy are autarchist (from Greek, "one who believes in self rule"), while the state in which everyone rules themselves and no one else is autarchy (from Greek autarchia, "state of self rule").
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Robert LeFevre, a "self-proclaimed autarchist"[1] recognized as such by Murray Rothbard,[2] distinguished autarchism from anarchism, whose economics he felt entailed interventions contrary to freedom, in contrast to his own laissez faire economics of the Austrian School.[3] In professing "a sparkling and shining individualism" while "it advocates some kind of procedure to interfere with the processes of a free market", anarchism seemed to LeFevre to be self-contradictory.[3] He situated the fundamental premise of autarchy within the Stoicism of philosophers such as Zeno, Epicurus and Marcus Aurelius, which he summarized in the diktat "Control yourself".[4] Fusing these influences together, he arrived at the autarchist philosophy: "The Stoics provide the moral framework; the Epicureans, the motivation; the praxeologists, the methodology. I propose to call this package of ideological systems autarchy, because autarchy means self-rule."[4].

LeFevre stated "the bridge between Spooner and modern-day autarchists was constructed primarily by persons such as H. L. Mencken, Albert Jay Nock, and Mark Twain"[3].

Ralph Waldo Emerson, although he did not call himself an autarchist, is considered to have espoused autarchy. Philip Jenkins has stated that "Emersonian ideas stressed individual liberation, autarchy, self-sufficiency and self-government, and strenuously opposed social conformity"[5]. Robert D. Richardson stated that the anarchy Emerson "has in mind would be 'autarchy', rule by self".[6]

George Burghope wrote the essay "Autarchy, or, the art of self government" in 1691[7]."
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