"Paying farmers to NOT plant crops"....norplant instead of welfare...

[TexGun]

So, my next leap in logic, is instead of the .gov paying welfare checks to female teens to keep producing...well...welfare babies.

Aside from the obvious morality issues, the dems would never vote something in that would keep THEIR constituency from reproducing. 

[bjtraz]

Not poo pawing your idea, but what about another theory? Instead, use ALL people on welfare for public projects. Nobody sits on their ass. They can pick up trash, administrative work, fill potholes, babysit for other workers, clean public bldgs, etc.. You can add whatever other jobs as seen fit, but you get the idea. Everybody wins, government keeps their welfare workers, citizens get "value" for their dollar, and recipients learn a trade/increase self esteem/feel fulfilled.

Brian

[Tyler Durden]

FQ back on page 1 wrote:

I have no problem with that, except, that the people rational enough to take the deal probably already use birth control. Plus the hard core feminists AND the Bible bangers would go ape sh*t (generally a sign that somthing is a good idea )

If those people are that rational to use birth control in the first place, they might as well get paid to use birth control. 

All of economics is based on what a rational person would do.

The hard core feminists shouldn't have a problem with it because it would be a voluntary program.  The femi-nazi's are all about choice, so, hey, let's give 'em one.   

Tex-gun wrote:

Aside from the obvious morality issues, ...

What morality issues?     I'm not trying to be all judgemental here and get up on my high horse, but these are the same folks who have sex out of wedlock, have babies out of wedlock, don't get jobs, and then expects the .gov to foot the bill for their kids.

I'm thinking morality issues are the least of that particular demographic's concerns.

[bulldog75]

Tyler Durden  +1


I'm thinking morality issues are the least of that particular demographic's concerns.

[tombogan03884]

There was a group in Ca. that was giving crack addicts a lump sum if they got their tubes tied, but it had to be permanant. That was a private group though.

I'm with Solus though, Until the Government stepped in communities always handled their own affairs. Americans give more to charity than any other nationality, but the more government meddles the narrower the gap.

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[LoveMyXds]

Here's three simple changes to the Welfare System that will immediately cut spending in half or more.....

1.) If a welfare recipient applies for benefits then the need to agree to immediate termination of CABLE TV SERVICE AND INTERNET SERVICE. FOR BOTH PARENTS. They also agree to not have any persons living inside the home, boyfriend, babydaddys etc. They also need to subject themselves to regular and random drug and alcohol screening. Any violation means PERMANENT LOSS OF ALL BENEFITS.

2. Food Stamps will be remodeled along the lines of WIC. Only STORE BRANDS, ONLY BASIC STAPLES. Eggs cheese, milk, flour, chicken on the bone, hamburger, low cost beef and pork cuts, rice, basic cereals. Nothing in a bag, pre prepared, or in a bottle. This would cut Medicaid spending too because we wouldn't be funding Obesity....

Make all Medicaid Recipients get a primary care provider. Make scheduled visits free. ER visits cost 20 dollars cash unless something is life threatening....

These three simple reforms would save the country's taxpayers BILLIONS by making the Welfare Culture less palatable.

[TexGun]

FQ back on page 1 wrote:


What morality issues?     I'm not trying to be all judgemental here and get up on my high horse, but these are the same folks who have sex out of wedlock, have babies out of wedlock, don't get jobs, and then expects the .gov to foot the bill for their kids.

I'm thinking morality issues are the least of that particular demographic's concerns.

BINGO!!!!    But, "morality" will be one of the first arguements thrown out there just like it would be if someone advocated aborting all of those welfare babies.  "Hey y'all, we don't want you to have babies but we're gonna subsidise you so that you can screw all you want!"  Great message for the kids!

Personally, the government throwing anything out there that tells people they can't have babies starts feeling a little Chinese-like no matter how fiscally responsible it might seem.

[crusader rabbit]

BINGO!!!!    But, "morality" will be one of the first arguements thrown out there just like it would be if someone advocated aborting all of those welfare babies.  "Hey y'all, we don't want you to have babies but we're gonna subsidise you so that you can screw all you want!"  Great message for the kids!

Personally, the government throwing anything out there that tells people they can't have babies starts feeling a little Chinese-like no matter how fiscally responsible it might seem.

I think the first argument will come from the Poverty Pimps like Sharpton, Jackson and the like.  This is "racist" and intended to impact the Black community by effectively reducing the number of "black" babies.  You might as well dress up in a sheet and hood when you present this to Congress as it will have the same impact and go just as far.

[Tyler Durden]

It would NOT be "racist" if it was voluntary.

 

[Solus]

Here's three simple changes to the Welfare System that will immediately cut spending in half or more.....

1.) If a welfare recipient applies for benefits then the need to agree to immediate termination of CABLE TV SERVICE AND INTERNET SERVICE. FOR BOTH PARENTS. They also agree to not have any persons living inside the home, boyfriend, babydaddys etc. They also need to subject themselves to regular and random drug and alcohol screening. Any violation means PERMANENT LOSS OF ALL BENEFITS.

2. Food Stamps will be remodeled along the lines of WIC. Only STORE BRANDS, ONLY BASIC STAPLES. Eggs cheese, milk, flour, chicken on the bone, hamburger, low cost beef and pork cuts, rice, basic cereals. Nothing in a bag, pre prepared, or in a bottle. This would cut Medicaid spending too because we wouldn't be funding Obesity....

Make all Medicaid Recipients get a primary care provider. Make scheduled visits free. ER visits cost 20 dollars cash unless something is life threatening....

These three simple reforms would save the country's taxpayers BILLIONS by making the Welfare Culture less palatable.

Again, just too complicated.  we will now need a task force to cross check welfare recipients against every cable provider and ISP in the country.

Just eliminate the the give away and no worries anymore.