Calderon Says Mexico Violence Stoked by U.S. Weapons

[WatchManUSA]

Given the number of guns in Mexico I can't visualize that Mexicans (or anyone else for that matter) are buying guns legally in US gun shops and taking them back across the border.  It is more believable to suspect the cartels are getting guns by stealing (or illegally buying) them from the Mexican military or from gun traffickers.

As for legalizing drugs, I'm softening my views.  I do worry that experimentation by people who don't drugs today, especially people with addictive personalities, might try legal drug and cause an increase people's dependence on drugs.

[TAB]

Hey I got this really great idea.  Lets seal the boarder between the US and mexico.  that way we stop thier "drug" prob and it will fix our "gun" prob.


sounds like a plan to me.

[Fatman]

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As for legalizing drugs, I'm softening my views.  I do worry that experimentation by people who don't drugs today, especially people with addictive personalities, might try legal drug and cause an increase people's dependence on drugs.

My big problem w/ legalizing drugs is the lesson learned from Amsterdam. They now have a 'new' type of government dependent. They spend some ungodly amount to coddle the addicts, both new and old, providing them with places to go day and night, and they gave up training them for private sector jobs they coudln't keep. Now the government just pays them to show up and do whatever work they feel like at centers.

Yeehaw.

[fightingquaker13]

There is no perfect drug policy. Prohibition breeds violence, more potent types of drugs, gangs, more police powers more prisons and black market economies that diminish respect for law and order in all its forms, as well as destabilizing whole nations and fueling all sorts of extremist groups from the Contras to Al-Queda. Legalization means wider availability, more use and thus more addiction. The choice is between the lesser of two evils. I think legalization qualifies.
FQ13

[TAB]

I actually like singapores drug policy, they catch you smuggling them they hang you.  If we started doing that, it would make a huge dent in the war on drugs.

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[Trident Firearms]

Legalizing and taxing marijuana is STUPID!  And impossible.  It is nothing more than a way for users of this illegal substance to do it illegally by taking advantage of the current economic situation.

If it were to be legal to use, than why would a consumer go to a "store" to get it and pay tax?  Why not just grow it, like some do now, and use it without paying the tax?  Do you really think there won't still be an underground market for it?

...seriously...?

Do you want to be the one to roll a joint for your 18 year old child?

And we all know that marijuana is not a gateway drug, right?  One of my own observations; Not ALL marijuana users go onto to harder drugs, but every Meth (or whatever 'hard' drug I can name) admits to starting with marijuana.  Coincidence?  You tell me.

[fightingquaker13]

Legalizing and taxing marijuana is STUPID!  And impossible.  It is nothing more than a way for users of this illegal substance to do it illegally by taking advantage of the current economic situation.

If it were to be legal to use, than why would a consumer go to a "store" to get it and pay tax?  Why not just grow it, like some do now, and use it without paying the tax?  Do you really think there won't still be an underground market for it?

...seriously...?

Do you want to be the one to roll a joint for your 18 year old child?

And we all know that marijuana is not a gateway drug, right?  One of my own observations; Not ALL marijuana users go onto to harder drugs, but every Meth (or whatever 'hard' drug I can name) admits to starting with marijuana.  Coincidence?  You tell me.

Just like we all grow tobbacco in our back yards, or buy it on the black market to avoid the tax? And the real gate way drug? Try beer or wine coolers. The only "gate way" pot opens is in breaking drug laws and getting introduced to the black market.
FQ13 who BTW has not smoked a joint in decades

[TAB]

I was offered pot in HS more then I was offered booze and tabacco products, combined.

[tombogan03884]

    That is a good arguement!!! But from personal experiance with both in my immediate family, I have seen an alcohalic still be able to live a semi-productive life and provide for their family as to where I have seen a career drug user that has not been able to hold any job for any length of time and has to turn to everyone for help... My father is 72 yrs. old and has been a drug user since the 60's. He didn't raise me nor any of his kids. Hasn't been able to hold a job for any length of time since the 70's and is always coming around wanting me to fix or pay for something because he is broke.(but he always has his pot and Viagra). Both the men who did raise me were both Alcohalics. My grandfather and my uncle...Both were always able to go to work and provide for the family...My wife also say's you can't get a contact drunk!!!

Not to offend but you are basing your theory on one individual, I've known people who neither drank OR did drugs who just as screwed up as that. I could also point out that Pot never gave any one cirrhosis of the Liver. No one has ever died of an overdose of pot, it is not physically possible.
But all that is beside the point and ignores the fact proven for the past 80 years, Prohibition is a waste of our money that only profits criminals and politicians. Without having any effect on use except possibly INCREASING it through the lure of "forbidden fruit".

Trident, your post is pathetically misinformed, growing tobacco is no more difficult than growing pot, and Booze has been involved in more violent crime than any other drug. In fact, it has been proven that smokers deprived of butts become more violent and suffer longer lasting withdrawel than junkies coming off Heroin. Do some research or stick to what you know .

[crusader rabbit]

Hey I got this really great idea.  Lets seal the boarder between the US and mexico.  that way we stop thier "drug" prob and it will fix our "gun" prob.


sounds like a plan to me.

What?  A logical solution?  One that might actually work?  TAB, what could you be thinking?  Seal the border...?  sheesh.  Where would the Dummycraps get their next crop of voters?  They aren't making them in THIS country anymore, and they gotta come from someplace.