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Re: The guns of Appleseed
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2010, 10:06:00 PM »
What is the longest distance you will shoot at an Appleseed event??

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Re: The guns of Appleseed
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2010, 09:59:56 AM »
What is the longest distance you will shoot at an Appleseed event??

The vast majority of the shooting is at 25 yards with scaled targets simulating 100, 250, 300 400, 500 yards.  Some ranges end the course by applying the skills on the 100, 200 or even 300 yard line, but the whole course is about putting together a basic skill set/tool box.  The focus is on sight alignment, sight picture, breathing and trigger control....and the right way to think about those.  Most people can stand to have a refresher at minimum.  Others need to actually learn those from instructors (I know I certainly did...everything I knew was from reading about it rather than having actual instruction).

I know a lot of people who scoff at the idea of shooting a rifle at 25 yards.  However -- look at the first 2 pictures in my range report on page 1.  Pic 1 is my sighter target...pic 2 is the guy's next to me.  Picture 2 was very typical of a majority of shooters at the range...and these were NOT new shooters.  They were, however, shooters that are in the "modern" vein of shooting...e.g., off a bench with scopes.

Shooting a rifle with iron sights using a sling from standing, sitting, prone ... is HARD.  Even at 25 yards.  There is a reason that the Rifleman patch is valued...it isn't easy to do.  Folks that scoff at 25 yards, I say...show me you have the 25 yard AQT mastered then I'll believe you can do the same at longer yardages.  

Appleseed is best thought of a gateway to true long range shooting where you start thinking through range estimation, wind, mirage, etc.  It has also taught me that most internet commandos that bluster about their shooting ability...are full of it.
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Re: The guns of Appleseed
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2010, 07:36:38 PM »
Thanks KPR I think I need to set up a 25 yrd range and practice.

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Re: The guns of Appleseed
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2010, 08:12:24 PM »
Here's the correctly scaled targets for the 25 yard AQT...download the attached pdf

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Re: The guns of Appleseed
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2010, 05:26:36 PM »
I'm a little bummed.  I was thinking of the OTHER Appleseed.
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Re: The guns of Appleseed
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2010, 05:30:40 AM »
I'm going to attend one of these shoots. It looks like a lot of informal fun with a bunch of good people.  Bill T.

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Re: The guns of Appleseed
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2010, 04:55:43 PM »
I would be Kilo that you got to be instructed by my good friends "The Guy" and "Garand69".   I will say that the groups you showed are typical, especially on the first day, regardless if they are using irons or scopes.  We have one range here in Montana that they let the Rifleman, or ones that are showing promise, shoot out to 400, 500, 600, and 1000.

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Re: The guns of Appleseed
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2010, 09:22:17 PM »
Yup, The Guy was one of my instructors.  Good guy.
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