Author Topic: The One Day I Don't Freaking Carry  (Read 8533 times)

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Re: The One Day I Don't Freaking Carry
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2010, 07:24:24 PM »
Maybe Pepper-Spraying this idiot would have been a more practical approach? Thanks for the hand up you schmuck, drive home with your eyeballs burning out of your skull, but be thankful your still alive type thing.

Glad you and your mother are well. This seems like a perfect op for that type of app.

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Re: The One Day I Don't Freaking Carry
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 07:48:33 PM »
You needed to be holding your Blackthorn, FQ.  Just that might have been sufficient to give him pause long enough for your smile and words to settle things down.

I carry mine all the time, but I CCW all the time too.  Carry it in my left hand used as a walking stock/cane.

My sister asked when I hurt my leg and I told her I didn't.  It was part of my new "image".

Glad he decided to address his issues with you rather than your mother. 

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Re: The One Day I Don't Freaking Carry
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2010, 07:53:05 PM »
Hey, this guy didn't have New Hampshire plates did he?
 








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Re: The One Day I Don't Freaking Carry
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2010, 07:55:14 PM »
Maybe Pepper-Spraying this idiot would have been a more practical approach? Thanks for the hand up you schmuck, drive home with your eyeballs burning out of your skull, but be thankful your still alive type thing.

Glad you and your mother are well. This seems like a perfect op for that type of app.


Pepper spray would have been useless. It just makes a pissed off asshat into a more pissed off asshat. The range was too close, he would have charged and grappled, given how pumped he was on adrenelin (or substance X). It was definately a "don't pull it if you don't mean to use it" kind of deal and Waay too close. I was on my ass at his feet, either stop him or use your mouth. The mouth worked (with a little help from 911 dispatch ;)), but pepper spray was not in the cards, it was just too close and too fast. I just assumed someone wearing a doctor's clothes, driving a doctor's car, in a doctor's neighborhood wouldn't go ape over being honked at by a 68 year old woman driving a mini-van. Wrong call.
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Re: The One Day I Don't Freaking Carry
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2010, 07:57:51 PM »
FQ: THE MAIN THING IS THAT YOU & YOUR MOM ARE OK. KUDOS FOR TRYING TO DEESCALATE THE ISSUE. THE TOUNGUE IS MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD BUT SOMETIMES THE TOUNGE CANNOT PENTRATE THE MIND OF SOMEONE WHO IS HIGH, GOT A CHIP ON THEIR SHOULDER, ROID RAGE, EMOTIONALLY UPSET, ETC.



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Re: The One Day I Don't Freaking Carry
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Re: The One Day I Don't Freaking Carry
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2010, 07:59:45 PM »
Alright, the OC wouldn't have worked.

"You can say 'stop' or 'alto' or use any other word you think will work, but I've found that a large bore muzzle pointed at someone's head is pretty much the universal language."

Carry next time.

P.S. Kiss your Mom.
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Re: The One Day I Don't Freaking Carry
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2010, 08:00:22 PM »
FQ, 1st glad you and mom are ok, 2nd, there are no perfect answers, just solutions, yours was a positive solution, could have gone south but did not. So you had a  positive solution with a sore butt. Could haves, sure, some OC spray, very practical, Moms covering you with a crimson trace anything pistol, even a stun gun. High intensity flashlight, etc... it is the times we are not prepared and it happens, that teaches the deepest lessons. Look forward to your new, approach/solution. As you reflect and get suggestions here.
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Re: The One Day I Don't Freaking Carry
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2010, 08:31:34 PM »
FQ, 1st glad you and mom are ok, 2nd, there are no perfect answers, just solutions, yours was a positive solution, could have gone south but did not. So you had a  positive solution with a sore butt. Could haves, sure, some OC spray, very practical, Moms covering you with a crimson trace anything pistol, even a stun gun. High intensity flashlight, etc... it is the times we are not prepared and it happens, that teaches the deepest lessons. Look forward to your new, approach/solution. As you reflect and get suggestions here.
My mother covering me,or better still, herself is a pipe dream (FQ who wants the beating head against a wall emoticon here). Despite growing up with guns, the woman just ain't geared for violence. She was sobbing hysterically afterwards and convinced it was her fault. took a while to talk her down ans explain that the guy was just an asshole. What for me was an irritating, and definately a WTF, how do I train for this, deal, was traumatic for her. No way I can get her to carry or even own a gun (again insert head/wall emoticon). I thought today night be a "teachable moment". No such luck. :-\
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Re: The One Day I Don't Freaking Carry
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2010, 08:45:32 PM »
FQ - WOW!  I'm glad the situation worked itself out in the end. 
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Re: The One Day I Don't Freaking Carry
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2010, 09:08:11 PM »
I'm sure you might have looked at this already, FQ, but how about Janich/Bane/Pincus directions about keeping potential threats at arms length next time? I was thinking about your situation and what I would do under your conditions at the time:

1. Get out of the vehicle raising my awareness.
2. The moment you saw the guy backing up, especially coming into your mom's yard, have HER call the cops.
3. Ask him what he wants and tell him stop and get out of your yard. No way does he penetrate your safety zone.
4. If he keeps coming try to get some distance from him and be sure you are between him and your mother.
5. He's bigger than you? Kick/punch him in the balls or gouge his eyes. Either one will get his ass to stop.

You know going through this makes me think about my mom, and she is similar to your mother. You are kind of like me also in that you want to analyze why he is being an asshole when you should be proactively taking steps to stop him. I learned long ago from taking too many ass whippings that some people only understand one thing and that is a fist or the barrel of a gun.

Obviously this is just a sincere, and probably inadequate, solution to your problem but I thought I put it out here...

P.S. Please consult an experienced criminal defense attorney in your area......

 

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