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[tombogan03884]

I was wondering about something, I just got done reading 30 pages of new member intro's here, and thats just this sight. With numbers like that how did the anti gunners ever get anything passed and why can't we just throw out the stupid laws. I've heard so many people say " They will take my gun from my cold dead hand" but face facts folks. It won't be Sarah Brady or the Hillybeast that comes to your door. It will be people you've seen at the Range, or the Cop who lives down the street. We are the good guys as Tom Greshem likes to say. Who among us is willing to shoot a cop. (ex- spouses don't count )
 What we must do is win the soft fight at the voting booth so that it doesn't come to the hard fight in the foxhole.
 I live in NH we have had concealed carry since before dirt, the only place I can't carry is the Court house. The only regulations here are the federal ones . We need to ATTACK the federal regulations. The Supreme court case is a start, but we can use the 1930's case as well ( I forget the name) but it held that a sawed off shotgun was not a "Militia type" weapon. That would indicate that the  1934 gun law regulating machineguns is unconstitutional, so called "assualt weapon " bans are unconstitutional.
 I am an NRA member, but I feel the need to point out that when they started promoting and PROTECTING our gun rights you could by Army surplus artilley peices mail order, now after 130+ years of their defense the FBI is involved in the purchase of every firearm. We need to ATTACK Bloomburg and the other facsists, and show them for what they are, lying ,power hungry, despots and the stupid tools of Lying , power hungry despots.
We need to turn their own tactics against them, a little here, a little there. Meanwhile we educate, Every one of us must attempt to get the Eddy Eagle program into our schools, challenge text books that revise history, Challenge "gun free" zones by informing store managers that you will not shop at that location as it is to dangerous, then every month or so send them copies of reciepts show how many items they carry that you bought elseware. Micheal mentioned on his podcast that a gay rights activist told him "out of the closet and into the street" , The North Veitnamese won their war not by beating us on the battle field but by undermining our will to fight , not with guns but by using the media. They put our troops in lose/lose situations, We had to retake Hue, but we could not do so without blowing it to hell. The media reported we destroyed Hue, they DID NOT report the thousands of anti communist men, women and children that the VC executed. We need to use similar tactics.If the media calls someone a gun nut the media outlet needs to be sued. If a felon commits a crime with a firearm it is up to us to question why that felon isn't charged with "Felon in possesion of a gun".
     These are just a few thoughts that were floating around in my head at 1:15 am you folks seem to be imagnitive and evil minded enough to come up with other ideas and suggestions. For now we have to defeat the phony republicans and the hillybeast. HAPPY NEW YEAR

[DDMac]

WHEW! Take a breath or two. Remember the training: B.R.A.S.-Breath Relax Aim Squeeeze. Now, take a moment and tell who you think is most sincerely politically alligned with your position. This site has a whole section devoted to political thought under a Fred Thompson heading. Who is your man? While I agree with your alarm, I am not yet prepared to shoot my cousin, Sgt  C.C. Mac, if he comes to inventory my guns. Your thoughts on a savior?  DDMack.

[tombogan03884]

Fred

[tombogan03884]

The fact that you are not prepared to "cap your cuz" makes my point, We NEED to win politicly so your Cousin isn't put in the situation of choosing between his beliefs and his livlyhood.  Heck, alot of us ARE cops ( I'm not ) .
But what I'm getting at is ,we can't leave it all up to ( hopefully) president Thompson, ( has a ring to it doesn't it) We have to act locally, The grabbers are trying to work locally,first ca. then Ma. then your state ,or mine. (That was Breath , relax right)   Savior, that reminds me, in the Garden of Gethsome, ( really need spell check) Jesus let peter cut off the Roman soldiers ear THEN said ,enough.
  Another random thought, If these liberals are not ready to defend themselves why should any cop, risk his life to do it.
   I did not notice the section on red Thompson, I'll have to check that out this weekend.

[DDMac]

Good points, one and all, and many seem to think Fred is THE man. Perhaps his maturity of character makes him appear unenthusiastic about actually getting elected. Even if I was smart enough, the office of the President would be the last job on my list. Work local? This forum is full of people who diligently work locally, either as their profession or just a life passion, to promote sport shooting and self defense, on a daily basis. As you suggest, winning the votes of the undecided should be a priority and education is the best tool. Take a newby shooting. Another convert!

Don't know that I'm with you on attacking the Federal gun laws regarding NFA stuff. Even the Constitution addresses the "well regulated" aspects of Militia activities, and by sound reason, their weapons. I don't recall any candidate calling for a ban on registered (NFA) guns. I'd let that dog sleep.

For what my opinion is worth, the firearm enforcement efforts of government, especially Federal government, have always appeared to me to be a reflection of the politics of the administration in power. The President has a party platform to deliver. He appoints a like--minded Attorney General to head the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice oversees the major Federal firearm cops, ATF and FBI, who have politically appointed Directors, who re-structure and re-prioritize the agency's manpower to reflect the Administration's vision for "success in the War on Crime". That is how the agency level supervisors get themselves promoted. By the time it gets down to street level enforcement, you are talking about guys who focus on the areas of current significance to management, while ignoring less significant problems. They get memos from above on what they must do, and go do it.

Therefore, getting the right person for the Top Dog job is job #1 to me. Gonna take another look at Ole Fred on your recommendation. See,  now you've got me fired up too! B.R.A.S.  Glass empty, ice gone, heading to the kitchen to caucus. Mac.

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[tombogan03884]

After putting more thought into it ( Usually a good idea,) NFA was a tax , so that may not be outside the specified powers of Government as laid out by the Constitution. My reasoning on repealing Federal regulations is that any law no matter how well intentioned or thought out, (not always the same thing) sets a precedent that can be used by someone like Bloomberg to get another law passed that is less well intentioned.
    Mac, You said "I don't recall any candidate calling for an NFA ban" wouldn't it be weird if the Hillybeast bans everything and the only things we could legally own were Machineguns and rocket launchers, Liberals make for REALLY weird possibilities.

[tombogan03884]

Hey , Mac you are right that BRAS makes me feel much better, Breathe ,Relax , Assualt, Strangle, Even works if I skip the first 2 steps.

[DDMac]

The more days I start by reading about politics, the shorter my life span gets to be. Gets me so mad my ears burn. Hair fell out years ago! For every plus with one candidate, there is a minus. Wouldn't it be nice to just cut and paste one together that really had the right stuff? How 'bout electing Mike and Marshal? Let them fight over who is #1. FINALLY, a shooting range on the White House lawn!   Mac.

[tombogan03884]

Now THATS an idea

[cookie62]

The more days I start by reading about politics, the shorter my life span gets to be. Gets me so mad my ears burn. Hair fell out years ago! For every plus with one candidate, there is a minus. Wouldn't it be nice to just cut and paste one together that really had the right stuff? How 'bout electing Mike and Marshal? Let them fight over who is #1. FINALLY, a shooting range on the White House lawn!   Mac.

M'ette would beat them both