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Scout Rifles
« on: February 21, 2010, 11:51:11 PM »
I have the opportunity to buy a new rifle in the next few months. Primarily I'm a hunter and originally intended to buy a real big thumper (9.3 x 62, .375, 416 etc) but have decided on something more practical. I'm a big fan of handy, quick rifles and thought that a Savage 10 FCM Scout would fit the bill. I figured I would slap on a Leupold 2.5x scout scope in Millet QD rings and be good to go. What are your thoughts? I think that this rifle would work well as a multi-role weapon. I could hunt whitetails and coyotes with it, but it also would be a great intermediate range defensive weapon, and something that I could throw in my vehicle as well if I am traveling. It is especially nice because .308 ammo is relatively cheap (or it used to be) and available.

How well does a bolt-action scout work as a defensive weapon? As a hunting gun? I also looked at the Ruger Frontier and I liked it because it was available in .338 Federal and .358 Winchester, but the trigger sucks (compared to the Savage's Accutrigger) and there are no backup iron sights.

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Re: Scout Rifles
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2010, 05:41:58 AM »
Get a copy of Col. Jeff Cooper's The Art of the Rifle. It will explain the Scout Rifle concept well....esp. since Col. Cooper is the one who invented it. A Scout Rifle is a great general-purpose rifle for most issues when a more specialized rifle isn't handy.

Another thing to consider....Col. Cooper selected the .308Win round based on its power and its availibility. In places where .308 may not be available, the 7.62x54R may equal the power and the availability (it's still issued as MG ammo in most Communist-supplied countries). I'm tempted to make a Scout Rifle out of a Mosin-Nagant M44....plenty of rifles and ammo available now....

....and, if you decide on using a Ruger Frontier rifle, here's an interesting mod....

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=336733
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=410902
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Re: Scout Rifles
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2010, 09:05:34 AM »
I think the Savage Scout is an excellent choice! I currently own and shoot the Model 10-FP, and wouldn't mind one of these Scout Models just for use with the iron sights.   Bill T.

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/10FCM%20SCOUT/
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Re: Scout Rifles
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2010, 09:58:22 AM »
The only problem with a scout rifle is the limited field of vision due to the scope being so far forward. I would choose the K-31 rifle for a scout, I like the straight pull and the round is strong. Of course Springfield has a pretty neat scout
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Re: Scout Rifles
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2010, 10:02:47 AM »
How bout an AR?
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Re: Scout Rifles
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2010, 10:29:22 AM »
Quote from: billt on February 22, 2010, 09:05:34 AM
I think the Savage Scout is an excellent choice! I currently own and shoot the Model 10-FP, and wouldn't mind one of these Scout Models just for use with the iron sights.   Bill T.

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/10FCM%20SCOUT/

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Re: Scout Rifles
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2010, 10:58:52 AM »
Quote from: 2HOW on February 22, 2010, 09:58:22 AM
The only problem with a scout rifle is the limited field of vision due to the scope being so far forward.

It is meant to be used with both eyes open.

I don't know what is available, but this scout setup would seem to benifit from an illuminated reticle more than most.  You would probably not use it much, but as far as versatility as a defensive rifle (at short range, in bad light) it makes the difference between point shooting compared to having a good fast sight picture.  
For instance:    On your way out of the woods at night, you get in between momma bear and cubs.  Or  Zombies attack when you get back to the truck.

About a year ago I helped a guy line up his new scope on a bolt gun.  He was not really a "gun guy" and had bought a low end 6.5 to 14ish power scope with illuminated reticle.  It got dark and we decided to play with the illumination.  I found that at 25-35 yards or so I could make fast hits on target at 6.5 power even with the front lens cap on.  

Something to consider anyway.

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Re: Scout Rifles
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2010, 11:09:23 AM »
Quote from: ericire12 on February 22, 2010, 10:02:47 AM
How bout an AR?

I though about an AR, but even a DPMS in .308 is going to run $900 without optics.
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Re: Scout Rifles
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2010, 03:49:31 PM »
Quote from: 2HOW on February 22, 2010, 09:58:22 AM
The only problem with a scout rifle is the limited field of vision due to the scope being so far forward. I would choose the K-31 rifle for a scout, I like the straight pull and the round is strong. Of course Springfield has a pretty neat scout

+1 on the K-31.  Rifle is stout and accurate and the ammo cheap for surplus.  The hunting loads will cost you a little more but about the same as .308.
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Re: Scout Rifles
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