The True face of Islam

[tombogan03884]

Tatics are when you supress your enemy and flank his position and destroy him. Hiding behind women and children and spraying rounds over their heads not so much. It is more like they are scared that our troops are better trained and disiplined with sound tatics. So when you are out gunned and out manned and out classed you resort to tatics of cowards. Most people would crap their pants if they faced a Abrams tank or a gun truck with some of Americas finest and bravest. Can not blame them for resorting to what they do, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.

They are simply "Taking effective cover". But your missing the point, it is a classic Guerrilla Warfare concept, and you would do the same thing (sort of ), They KNOW  they are lightly armed, poorly trained, with spotty leadership, so they do not attack an Armored Brigade with an overloaded taxi .instead they attack WEAKNESS.
It's pretty basic common sense, The evil capitalist infidels don't shoot at women and kids, They don't use their most excellent Counter Battery fire on Hospitals or Mosques, Gee, maybe I should take the stuff I don't want blown up, (My weapons, my Ammo supplies, and my butt ) and spread it amongst Mosques, Hospitals, Schools, and other places the ROE say they can not shoot at.

[fightingquaker13]

They are simply "Taking effective cover". But your missing the point, it is a classic Guerrilla Warfare concept, and you would do the same thing (sort of ), They KNOW  they are lightly armed, poorly trained, with spotty leadership, so they do not attack an Armored Brigade with an overloaded taxi .instead they attack WEAKNESS.
It's pretty basic common sense, The evil capitalist infidels don't shoot at women and kids, They don't use their most excellent Counter Battery fire on Hospitals or Mosques, Gee, maybe I should take the stuff I don't want blown up, (My weapons, my Ammo supplies, and my butt ) and spread it amongst Mosques, Hospitals, Schools, and other places the ROE say they can not shoot at.

Amen and Amen. They aren't cowards, they just don't play by our rules and so we get frustrated. Here's the key. We need to let the world know what they are doing so we aren't seen as blood thirsty cowboys (which is what they want). A little known, and we (and Israel) need to make it better known, part of the Geneva Convention is this. It is a war crime to hide yourself or materiel amongst civilians. Everybody knows you shouldn't shoot civilians. We need to remind folks that you can't shelter behind them  either, and if you do, their blood is on your hands. Here's the neat thing. We don't need to scrap the Geneva Convention. Just follow it to the letter. "No uniform"? "Gee you must be a spy, sorry about that". "Hiding weapons in civilian areas? After we bomb them, we'll put you on trial for war crimes". Its why I think breaking the Geneva Convention is a mistake. It works for us here.
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

But they do not recognize the Geneva Convention, that is only of use for PR, where they retain the under dogs advantage as "Peasants" to poor to even have uniforms standing up to the Armored might of the worlds last "SuperPower"

[bulldog75]

Our own media, and bleeding heart liberal politicians play into their hands and it frustrates me. Different cultures means different rules. My rules say they are cowards. Theirs says they are brave little turds fighting a good fight.

[tombogan03884]

 I only have one, Win.
And I don't care about any one else's, since I am not even considering obeying them  

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[bulldog75]

I only have one, Win.
And I don't care about any one else's, since I am not even considering obeying them   

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[tombogan03884]

What else do you expect from a society basically made up of cattle. From the days of humanities first preisthoods. these people, (presumably the oldest "society" on earth )have been dominated by Dictatorships of one type or another, from Sargon, and Gilgamesh through Saddam Husein they have been firmly controlled and initiative is discouraged first by Kings like Cyrus, or Saladin, they at least allowed the arts and sciences to flourish.
If the central core of Christianity is "Love", the central core of Islam is "Submit".
After 6000 years of being taught "be thankful we allow you your life", now we expect them to jump up demanding to vote for Womens Lib, and Gay marriage. And we're surprised it doesn't go as smoothly as expected  ?

[fightingquaker13]

What else do you expect from a society basically made up of cattle. From the days of humanities first preisthoods. these people, (presumably the oldest "society" on earth )have been dominated by Dictatorships of one type or another, from Sargon, and Gilgamesh through Saddam Husein they have been firmly controlled and initiative is discouraged first by Kings like Cyrus, or Saladin, they at least allowed the arts and sciences to flourish.
If the central core of Christianity is "Love", the central core of Islam is "Submit".
After 6000 years of being taught "be thankful we allow you your life", now we expect them to jump up demanding to vote for Womens Lib, and Gay marriage. And we're surprised it doesn't go as smoothly as expected  ?

And if the Neo-cons had learned that lesson there would be far fewer dead Americans than there are. I was and still am, anti the Iraq war, but for the sake of argument, pretend I wasn't. We should have just put someone in charge and gone home. Same with Afghanistan. Kick the Tailban to the curb, send the message that if you allow a group like Al Queda to wage war against us  from inside your country we will decimate you, and call it a day. These people will never like us or share our values. Only an arrogant fool (paging W. with his oft repeated "Who says Muslims don't want democray in their countries"? Well me, and about 1400 years of history). Thing is, I do feel for the plight of the women in Afghanistan. I would like to see a democratic, pro-American Iraq. But, I don't think its worth a single dead Marine to achieve either goal. If they want a gender neutral democracy, good for them. But if they don't fine. Just don't attack us or harbor those who do and we're good. Was that so hard? Since when does basic hard nosed realism make you unpatriotic? Bottom line is, they ain't like us, never have been and  never will be and don't try to change that or you'll fail. Just come to terms on a live and let live (so we don't have to kill you) policy, and walk away. Its all good, Inshallah .
FQ13

[crusader rabbit]

Kick the Tailban to the curb, send the message that if you allow a group like Al Queda to wage war against us  from inside your country we will decimate you, and call it a day.

I have noted this before, but I will say again:  We have forgotten HOW to win wars.  Are we militarily superior?  Without question we are.  Are our men and women the bravest in the world?  They have shown that time and time again.  Will we actually forget about political correctness and win?  Sorry.  Not in the cards.  We, as a nation, are too concerned about how we might be perceived by the rest of the world to do what it takes to win.  And we allow politicos to be in charge instead of letting the generals lead the way (or, we make it impossible for a general officer to lead by making him into a political pawn).

Until we figure out that Fanatical Islam wants us DEAD, we will not do what is needed.  And we are showing no indication of recognizing the truth.

I continue to weep for my country.

Crusader

[mudman]

For 1400 years they have tried to force the world to submit only blood has stopped them only blood will ever stop them.
Either kill them or submit no gray areas.I don't like saying it but I do beleive it.