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[tombogan03884]

I agree in theory, but that side saddle cost me $12 at Gander. I'd sure hate to get shot while litterally grabbing my ass to make that point. Frankly, my POV is that for a cop or soldier, I'll take what they give me if it works. But anything I can find and that they will let  me get away with carrying/wearing  that works better? I'm on it. I came to this conclusion when I was in Army ROTC in college. I worked at a very high end out fitter (North Face, Marmot, Vasque, Gregory, Patagonia etc.). They practically gave their gear away to us. The employee discount was 20% BELOW wholesale on what the companies called the "pro-plan'. It was the same deal athletes, ski patrol members etc. got because they wanted us all to tell the customers how much we loved their stuff. Basically, I could buy top of the line gear for pennies on the dollar (though I was making a whole $5.50 an hour and spending more than I should have at the company store, but hey, nothing is free). Still, it used to chap my ass when I went on an FTX and got blisters from ill fitting boots, an Alice pack, which must have been designed by Jane Fonda, a leaky poncho and a "shelter half", that, just as advertised, was a half assed tent even when assembled. I won't even talk about the MRE's. All of this when, if they just let me equip myself, at my own expense thank you very much, just like in the days of the Colonial miltias, I would have been warm, dry and blister free.  At zero expense to the taxpayer. Hell, I'd have paid for the priviledge, as long as I could shove that Alice pack up someone's ass. (sorry, I have bony shoulders and hips, and unless you've carried one you won't understand. Just understand that my cohort called it the Fonda pack for a reason).  So if it were me Bulldog, and it were my ass on the line 5 days a week, I'd leave as much of the issue gear as I could at home and bring the best I could afford to work. After all, its your ass, not theirs, that's on the line. Money be damned. Just my .02.
FQ13 who wants you to stay safe   

Agree with most of it but you obviously never ate C Rations if you can complain about MRE's   

ALICE Packs are the ruck from HELL 

[fightingquaker13]

ALICE Packs are the ruck from HELL 

Agreed. The theory of the "Fonda Pack" is sound in terms of modularity, durability, etc. But did anyone listen to the PFCs that tested the thing? And why were our soldiers 4 generations behind what yuppies took on a three day hike in the Blue Ridge? I mean my Gregory pack,  15 years old, and outdated as it is, will still  carry 60 pounds as comfortably as 60 pounds can be carried. No nifty camel back or molle system, but still darn good at distributing weight and it "gasps" has padding. The Alice pack, none of the above. Better than a wood and canvas packboard, but honestly, it doesn't seem too much to ask that we give the grunts decent gear if we can put a man on the moon or pay for a nuclear sub. Sad thing is, the contractors and their lobbyists always get money for the Tom Swift, Acme Mach III Whackinator. That's all good and maybe we need the Whackinator. Still, they tend to forget that we don't own a piece of ground till a US Soldier or Marine has pissed on it, and the guys and gals in the green suits and the rifles ought to get first dibs on the budget. Just sayin'.
FQ13