Knoxx Shot gun stock

[bulldog75]

I have one on an 870 and I have noticed that the recoil is more managable. 14 year old yes 4 year old no.

[Trident Firearms]

We had a student go through our Tactical Shotgun course about a week ago with one of these mounted on his Winchester 1300 and he swore it was the best thing since 00 buck.  He fired quite a bit of #7 shot but he did do about 40 double ought and about half of that many slugs.  Said he could have gone on for more if time were permitting.

I did not get a chance to shoot it, but then I prefer a standard stock to the pistol grip.  He also modified the slide release to be actuated with his trigger finger, mounted it to the side of the action.  That looked interesting to me but I am not sure it would have stood up to any sort of operational or field work.  He is an attorney and I don't expect him to be going operational any time soon...

edited to add -

I also did not like the rounds stored on the off hand side of the stock either.  It made off side shooting very uncomfortable for him, but he left them there so... To each his own.  We teach "A way" not "The way."

[fightingquaker13]

Trident
Where else are you going to keep your extra rounds, if not on the off side of the stock? I guess one coud use a bandolieer sling, but that seems slower to reload from than a side saddle. On my current standard stocked Maverick/Mossy, I use an elastic nylon side saddle. Its not to save money either. If I need to go off hand, for reasons of injury I can just rotate it to the other side and draw from the bottom, (though honestly, unlike Hollywood, if you shoot me in the right arm, I'm probably done unless the adreneline fairy is feeling particularly kind). Still, unlike a rigid side saddle, the nylon is just uncomfortable, noty painful, if I have to shoot off handed, like say around a corner. About 15 years ago I had, and stupidly sold, a Mossy 590 with the shell holders in the stock. Ideal in theory, but I still found it slower to reload than the side saddle. Thoughts?
FQ13 who is always willing to listen to those who do this for a living.

[bulldog75]

FQ I use the same nylon side saddle also at home. At work I put the rounds in my back pocket.

[fightingquaker13]

FQ I use the same nylon side saddle also at home. At work I put the rounds in my back pocket.

And here I am taking my wallet out of my back pocket if I'm going to be in the car for any length of time. . Why not use the side saddle at work? A department reg, or a tactical reason?
FQ13

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[bulldog75]

I am not paying for equipment that they should provide for me.

[fightingquaker13]

I am not paying for equipment that they should provide for me.

I agree in theory, but that side saddle cost me $12 at Gander. I'd sure hate to get shot while litterally grabbing my ass to make that point. Frankly, my POV is that for a cop or soldier, I'll take what they give me if it works. But anything I can find and that they will let  me get away with carrying/wearing  that works better? I'm on it. I came to this conclusion when I was in Army ROTC in college. I worked at a very high end out fitter (North Face, Marmot, Vasque, Gregory, Patagonia etc.). They practically gave their gear away to us. The employee discount was 20% BELOW wholesale on what the companies called the "pro-plan'. It was the same deal athletes, ski patrol members etc. got because they wanted us all to tell the customers how much we loved their stuff. Basically, I could buy top of the line gear for pennies on the dollar (though I was making a whole $5.50 an hour and spending more than I should have at the company store, but hey, nothing is free). Still, it used to chap my ass when I went on an FTX and got blisters from ill fitting boots, an Alice pack, which must have been designed by Jane Fonda, a leaky poncho and a "shelter half", that, just as advertised, was a half assed tent even when assembled. I won't even talk about the MRE's. All of this when, if they just let me equip myself, at my own expense thank you very much, just like in the days of the Colonial miltias, I would have been warm, dry and blister free.  At zero expense to the taxpayer. Hell, I'd have paid for the priviledge, as long as I could shove that Alice pack up someone's ass. (sorry, I have bony shoulders and hips, and unless you've carried one you won't understand. Just understand that my cohort called it the Fonda pack for a reason).  So if it were me Bulldog, and it were my ass on the line 5 days a week, I'd leave as much of the issue gear as I could at home and bring the best I could afford to work. After all, its your ass, not theirs, that's on the line. Money be damned. Just my .02.
FQ13 who wants you to stay safe  

[bulldog75]

I have outfitted a lot of crap that I probally could not afford but went ahead and bought it. Yes I bought a bug out bag and through the alice pack in the back of the closet. They are about as a pain in the arse as Hanoi jane. The nice bug out bag is worth its weight in gold. The thing that gets me about young soldiers is they will pay 150 dollars for sunglasses but will complain and refuse to go buy a good pair of boots. Let me tell you that I prefer my feet to be comfortable with good boots and a cheap pair of sunglasses. Had a soldier the first time I was deployed have a foot problem. I made him go get white socks and a good pair of boots. In a week he had no more foot problems.

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[fightingquaker13]

I have outfitted a lot of crap that I probally could not afford but went ahead and bought it. Yes I bought a bug out bag and through the alice pack in the back of the closet. They are about as a pain in the arse as Hanoi jane. The nice bug out bag is worth its weight in gold. The thing that gets me about young soldiers is they will pay 150 dollars for sunglasses but will complain and refuse to go buy a good pair of boots. Let me tell you that I prefer my feet to be comfortable with good boots and a cheap pair of sunglasses. Had a soldier the first time I was deployed have a foot problem. I made him go get white socks and a good pair of boots. In a week he had no more foot problems.

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Amen on ther boots brother. If you have to go with issue, get the jump boots. The other key is liner socks. Screw the cost. Buy Patagonia capilene. About ten bucks a pair. Buy twelve and quit whining. Having them between your feet and your outer sock means that you will almost never get a blister, even if you're feet are wet. They are worth their weight in gold.
FQ13 who understands that its the very small things, like deet, toliet paper, sunscreen, good footwear, a decent hat and a few energy bars, that make the difference between being miserable and having an ok time of things.

[bulldog75]

Screw the toilet paper I go with the baby wipes. Another thing is the gloves. I went out and bought a decent pair for 10 bucks and they were way more comfortable than those oversized leather ones you are issued. Good socks are a god send. Especially during the 12 mile and longer road marches. I always carry mole skin but since I changed to a bug out bag, and better boots I have not had to use it. Chap stick is a blessing also. Knee and elbow pads are great too.