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Re: Quote of Quotes............
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2010, 08:04:10 PM »
And now this:

 I don’t think they were expecting the type of response seen in not only the demonstrations, but in poll numbers and by conservative talk radio and television.


Yeah..I can just hear their reaction.     I just don't understand it.  I'm sure we used enough grease.
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Re: Quote of Quotes............
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2010, 10:27:36 PM »
I hope I'm on it  ;D

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Re: Quote of Quotes............
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2010, 06:10:45 AM »
All it needs is the right spark and we are back to "Hardhats" beating on "Hippies".
Remember Kent State ? That REALLY happened, US TROOPS fired on US demonstrators, it not only CAN happen here, it already has, Waco, Ruby Ridge, more examples of  Govt. restraint.
If an over reaction were to happen, at the Second Amendment March, or some other large Political event such as the 1968 Dem. Convention. This was probably the point where the Socialists took full control of the Dem Party as they showed the "Dixiecrats" That they had "street muscle in more important cities than Selma Ala. or Little Rock Ark.
That was when the old time"decent crooks" were forced to bow to the sheer numbers of the then still much more urbanized Northern and Western Leftists heavily influenced by the socialist influenced unions.
The results will get ugly, both , the Civil Rights movement ,and  Pulling out of Vietnam, both required constant propaganda and peaceful Marches to draw attention, but they needed violence in the form of Riots to have an effect.

Tom I was impressed, perhaps wrongly so, that when Kent State happened it somehow "got real" and "hit home" with the youngsters (I was younger) who had a cause on Dad's money until that point.   It was my perception, as a youth, that the marches and riots which were great fun and a place to impress the girls and get laid began to evaporate.  Is this an overall accurate impression that I have that these riots/marches began to disappear?
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Re: Quote of Quotes............
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2010, 08:48:11 AM »
Who is buying rope now?








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Re: Quote of Quotes............
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2010, 10:29:17 AM »
Tom I was impressed, perhaps wrongly so, that when Kent State happened it somehow "got real" and "hit home" with the youngsters (I was younger) who had a cause on Dad's money until that point.   It was my perception, as a youth, that the marches and riots which were great fun and a place to impress the girls and get laid began to evaporate.  Is this an overall accurate impression that I have that these riots/marches began to disappear?

Just based on my own musings I think what happened after Kent State was that the "Establishment" lost their nerve. This was a government that hesitated to bomb targets in Hanoi because they might accidentally blow some rice burner off his crapper.
At the same time the Left felt that the shock felt by the public signaled time to switch to working with in the system to implement long term infiltration to influence our institutions such as education.

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Re: Quote of Quotes............
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2010, 03:59:06 PM »
Just based on my own musings I think what happened after Kent State was that the "Establishment" lost their nerve. This was a government that hesitated to bomb targets in Hanoi because they might accidentally blow some rice burner off his crapper.
At the same time the Left felt that the shock felt by the public signaled time to switch to working with in the system to implement long term infiltration to influence our institutions such as education.


And they certainly were successful in that arena.
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Re: Quote of Quotes............
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2010, 04:03:00 PM »
Please tell me if my tinfoil hat is on crooked, but I could easily envision a scenario where certain folks on the left would threaten, assault or even kill one of the aforementioned members of Congress who voted for the plan, just so they could blame things on those of us who happen to agree with the TEA Party movement.  Because no matter what happens or who perpetrates the mischief, we're the ones who will be blamed for it.  The above scenario could also clear the way for "decisive action against" the TEA Party movement as a whole, since the left would move us from the category of whackadoos (where they have us now) to subversives, or even traitors.

Speaking of the 2A March.  What would prevent the powers of darkness to "plant" somebody among the throng of peaceful 2A marchers with instructions to fire one or more shots.  Whether they hit anything/anybody or not, they could set our cause back 40 years.

Am I too cynical?
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Re: Quote of Quotes............
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2010, 04:06:26 PM »
Please tell me if my tinfoil hat is on crooked, but I could easily envision a scenario where certain folks on the left would threaten, assault or even kill one of the aforementioned members of Congress who voted for the plan, just so they could blame things on those of us who happen to agree with the TEA Party movement.  Because no matter what happens or who perpetrates the mischief, we're the ones who will be blamed for it.  The above scenario could also clear the way for "decisive action against" the TEA Party movement as a whole, since the left would move us from the category of whackadoos (where they have us now) to subversives, or even traitors.

Am I too cynical?

use ta wuz I would have said yes, but...

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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2010, 04:09:15 PM »
I would not want to think that even the liberals who I do believe would do anything to advance their agenda would not stoop to that.

However, I might be wrong. 

I do think it more likely that those who pull the liberal strings are capable and willing to perform those acts so that the liberals have the "smoking gun" they need.

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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2010, 06:49:59 PM »
Tom I was impressed, perhaps wrongly so, that when Kent State happened it somehow "got real" and "hit home" with the youngsters (I was younger) who had a cause on Dad's money until that point.   It was my perception, as a youth, that the marches and riots which were great fun and a place to impress the girls and get laid began to evaporate.  Is this an overall accurate impression that I have that these riots/marches began to disappear?

Having lived through it, Kent State did as Tom noted cause the establishment to waver. However, it also drove home the fact to the hippies that this was real shit happening, not a lark. Most of them backed off on the protests, a few like the SDS became the violent Weather Underground.

The Altamont concert, where the Rolling Stones were performing, was where the "Age of Aquarius" really died - along with the black guy the Hell's Angels killed. A real WTF moment there- who ever had the brilliant idea of hiring the Hell's Angels as concert security?
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