Get ready for a National Sales Tax

[crusader rabbit]

Brother Rastus, please accept an Amen from Crusader. 

[TAB]

TAB, what in the heck are you talking about?  Do you think that guy that has 100 mil and puts 5 mil a year away has not already paid taxes?  Put it in gear man, what is right, in your example, about him being taxed again because he has money and doesn't want to spend it? 

you missed the context of my post.  Some one brought up the fairtax.org.  they want income tax to go away and just have a sales tax on every thing.  I was showing how that system is flawed.

[twyacht]

you missed the context of my post.  Some one brought up the fairtax.org.  they want income tax to go away and just have a sales tax on every thing.  I was showing how that system is flawed.

Gee, get 100% of my paycheck, and do away with the IRS, take a considerable amount of power AWAY from gov't,. Freedom to invest in my retirement without the gov't holding a gun to my head??

I'll take the flaws.... Plus TAB have you read the book?

The FairTax:

    * Enables workers to keep their entire paychecks
    * Enables retirees to keep their entire pensions
    * Refunds in advance the tax on purchases of basic necessities
    * Allows American products to compete fairly
    * Brings transparency and accountability to tax policy
    * Ensures Social Security and Medicare funding
    * Closes all loopholes and brings fairness to taxation
    * Abolishes the IRS

http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_main

[fullautovalmet76]

Your telling me he should pay less tax then say a family of 4 with a household income of say 60k?      Please exmplain to me how thats fair.

I'm saying with a flat sales tax one is paying taxes on things they consume, it's strictly based on their lifestyle or business model. The current system offers plenty of incentives to be NON-productive.

Why should some one like me, pay more tax then some one that pushes paper all day for the same pay?    There is no doubt about it, I did more financial good to the local area, then any office worker.  

Because you are consuming more to get more, TAB! And remember the extra costs due to the tax WILL be passed on to your customers and/or employees.

Following your logic: lower income people pay a greater proportion of their income for housing, transportation, clothing, medical care, etc. Why don't we rig the system to make you and I pay an excise tax on our housing, transportation, clothing, etc. to help them out? It's not fair that you live in a nicer home, drive a better vehicle, and have nicer clothes than the poor. In fact you are exploiting labor to enrich yourself by keeping the profits from your business, you bourgeois bastard!

[tombogan03884]

I'm saying with a flat sales tax one is paying taxes on things they consume, it's strictly based on their lifestyle or business model. The current system offers plenty of incentives to be NON-productive.

Because you are consuming more to get more, TAB! And remember the extra costs due to the tax WILL be passed on to your customers and/or employees.

Following your logic: lower income people pay a greater proportion of their income for housing, transportation, clothing, medical care, etc. Why don't we rig the system to make you and I pay an excise tax on our housing, transportation, clothing, etc. to help them out? It's not fair that you live in a nicer home, drive a better vehicle, and have nicer clothes than the poor. In fact you are exploiting labor to enrich yourself by keeping the profits from your business, you bourgeois bastard!

This is exactly why people hate the Healthcare bill

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[ericire12]

UPDATE: Confirmed. Obama favors a VAT

Grow the beast so that we will be forced to feed it:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100421/ap_on_bi_ge/us_obama_tax

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama suggested Wednesday that a new value-added tax on Americans is still on the table, seeming to show more openness to the idea than his aides have expressed in recent days.

Before deciding what revenue options are best for dealing with the deficit and the economy, Obama said in an interview with CNBC, "I want to get a better picture of what our options are."

*Read my lips, no new taxes:

“I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.”

[kygunnut]

on what Constitutional basis???

not like that has stopped them lately....

Constitutional..... They don't need no stinking Constitutional.