open carry option

[PegLeg45]

I have heard it recommended that when using the restroom, you drop your pants to the floor and place your gun on your pants between your feet.

This ensures that you are thinking of the gun when business is done and are less likely to leave it on the back of a toilet, top of a paper  holder or some other place.

I guess the sink in a single use works cause you will be (hopefully) washing your hands.

Only downside to the sink is that is is not available for a "restroom invasion"  if the sink is not close.

I've used that one a couple of times.

As to the 'restroom invasion', they don't want none o' that.       

[Solus]

As to the 'restroom invasion', they don't want none o' that.       

Ahhh...BCM ...Biological Counter Measures...

[tombogan03884]

I use a shoulder holster now, it has loops so I wear a belt with a removable buckle so I just pop off the buckle and pull both ends out of the loops and take care of business.

[usmcdadx2]

Yes open carry is an option in Wisconsin but it can be a hassle.
Hassle #1; case law has determined in our wonderful state that open carry while inside your vehicle is "concealed" from the view of anyone outside the vehicle...busted. #2; said firearm in the vehicle must be unloaded, fully encased and not readily accessible to the occupant of the vehicle....PITA And #3; just because you legally can do it doesn't prevent that segment of law enforcement(not all LEO's)  who are; uninformed, moronic or pursuing their own agenda, from stopping and "messing" with you.

I often use open carry when riding my motorcycle (I’m not “in” a vehicle so my sidearm is visible to anyone around me) to the range during the summer I have been stopped soley because I've "got a gun" four times. Thus far it has been nothing more than the afore-mentioned PITA. But I still had to make sure all of my movements were outrageously "non-threatening" while explaining to some officious idiot that I was properly exercising my rights. I have a friend from Fond Du Lac that was arrested, several years ago, for disorderly conduct because some “anti-handgun” putz complained that she felt threatened by his open carry in a county park. He fought the charge and it was dropped as unfounded but it still took him almost a year to get his gun back from the courts.

[Hazcat]

Yes open carry is an option in Wisconsin but it can be a hassle.
Hassle #1; case law has determined in our wonderful state that open carry while inside your vehicle is "concealed" from the view of anyone outside the vehicle...busted. #2; said firearm in the vehicle must be unloaded, fully encased and not readily accessible to the occupant of the vehicle....PITA And #3; just because you legally can do it doesn't prevent that segment of law enforcement(not all LEO's)  who are; uninformed, moronic or pursuing their own agenda, from stopping and "messing" with you.

I often use open carry when riding my motorcycle (I’m not “in” a vehicle so my sidearm is visible to anyone around me) to the range during the summer I have been stopped soley because I've "got a gun" four times. Thus far it has been nothing more than the afore-mentioned PITA. But I still had to make sure all of my movements were outrageously "non-threatening" while explaining to some officious idiot that I was properly exercising my rights. I have a friend from Fond Du Lac that was arrested, several years ago, for disorderly conduct because some “anti-handgun” putz complained that she felt threatened by his open carry in a county park. He fought the charge and it was dropped as unfounded but it still took him almost a year to get his gun back from the courts.

All the more reason to do it.  and push for a change in the 'auto' part.

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[WatchManUSA]

Minnesota is a "carry" state meaning a Carry Permit holder can carry open or concealed.  Several times a week I open carry just because I can.  I get the "look" from some people but it does not bother me.  I have never been hassled by a LEO and never asked by a LEO for my carry permit and ID.  I expect that I may be asked one day.  I use a Blackhawk Serpa holster when I open carry.

I know Wisconsin is different and Wisconsin LEOs have "reputation."  Especially with out-of-state drivers.  So I understand the potential hassle factor.

Good Luck!

[usmcdadx2]

Sorry this will be long... and please don't take to wrong.
I’m all for exercising our right to carry and we keep pushing/hoping for concealed carry as well. I just made my post to make sure Gfro was aware of the “wrinkles” that come with open carry in our fine state. Some people that I know who are all for getting a concealed carry law on the books,  and would carry concealed if they could, simply will not as a rule open carry because they don’t want to deal with the potential hassles.

There are also very real risks in some situations; as an example the first time I was stopped for “having a gun”. I was driving down the highway when the gumballs came on so I pulled over, shut down the bike and set it on the sidestand. Now since I know most of the local LEO’s because of my job, I took my hands off the handlebars and turned to make conversation. Let me tell you looking at the business end of a 9MM in the hands of a very nervous cop who appeared to be about 12 years old ends conversation very quickly! Had I made any additional “wrong” move I have no doubt I would have found out first hand how effective the 9MM round is. Once he calmed down he told me he had stopped me because I had a concealed weapon. I asked him how he was able to determine I had a concealed weapon and he told me “because I can see it!”. To which I said “WTF if you can see it how is it concealed?”, his answer was “don’t be a smartass with me buddy”. At that point his shift supervisor arrived as backup for the "man with a gun" call. That officer did know me, explained to the first officer that my method of carry was indeed legal and made him apologize, but then had the ‘nads to suggest to me that I not open carry to avoid “problems” in the future. I told him that I would not surrender my rights because his officer was undertrained, which was the real cause of my “problem” not my sidearm.
Was I “in the right”?- yes
Could I have ended up dead?- you bet

As with every choice we make involving firearms; each of us has to weigh our own acceptable risks, the more information we have the better decisions we can make. For me the potential hassles will not stop me from open carry when I chose. Others may not want to deal with them.

[Hazcat]

USMCdadx2,

If it seemed I was being argumentative with your original post, my apologies.  I was simply saying that for me to not exercise a right because it 'upsets' others or because some LEOs may not like it ain't likely to happen.

If anything it would make me much MORE likely to 'stir the pot'.

[usmcdadx2]

Haz,  I didn't feel you were argumentative, I added the "don't take it worng" hoping no one thought I was being pissy. I've been known to stir a few pots myself so anyone counting on me not doing something because "they" might not like it will be very disappointed. Ask my darling wife

That isn't everyone's personality so I fall back to "more info, informed choices"

[Solus]

See Haz???  you can take a bit of a lesson from USMC...

He worries about it for a moment before he stirs the pot....

We can use that kind of restraint and self control around here