No Permit Concealed Carry Now The Law In Arizona

[crusader rabbit]

And AZ worked on some other gun measures, too.

Several other bills introduced this session aim to loosen weapons regulations.

• House Bill 2307

Summary: Exempts any firearm or ammunition manufactured and kept in Arizona from federal regulation, including registration.

Status: Passed by the Legislature and signed into law by Gov. Jan Brewer.


• House Bill 2543

Summary: Extends restrictions on local governments from regulating firearms and ammunition to include the purchase, acquisition, storage, licensing or registration of such items. Also prohibits cities and counties from banning firearms in parks.

Status: Passed by the Legislature and signed into law by Brewer.


• Senate Bill 1014

Summary: Would allow a community college faculty member to carry a concealed firearm on campus.

Status: Passed the Senate as an unrelated bill. Strike everything amendment with the new wording was added and passed the House Military Affairs and Public Safety Committee. Awaits a vote of the House Committee of the Whole.

Source: Legislation Online Arizona

[Hazcat]

Retired Mesa police officer Dan Furbee runs a business teaching permit and other gun safety classes. He said if most people choose not to get a permit, it will put several hundred Arizona firearms instructors out of business.

"It's going to hurt," he said.

But he said what really concerns him is that the new law will allow people who have had no education about Arizona's laws and no training on the shooting range to carry a concealed gun. The eight-hour class currently required to get a permit includes information on state law and gun safety, as well as requires students to be able to hit a target 14 out of 20 times. Furbee said his class at Mesa-based Ultimate Accessories costs $79, plus $60 for the five-year permit.

"I fully agree that we have a right to keep and bear arms," Furbee said. "But if you are not responsible enough to take a class and learn the laws, you are worse than part of the problem."

Though in essence I agree that any one who plans to carry should get training, AZ already has unrestricted open carry so what is the difference?  Can't carry into a bar or other place that sells alcohol for consumption in either case, only permitted concealed carry people can.  No diff I can see in the rules.
He said it's not uncommon for students to walk into his classroom and pull a new gun out of a box with no idea how to hold it and no understanding of the laws surrounding it.

"If you are going to carry a concealed weapon, you should have some kind of training and show that you are at least competent to know how the gun works and be able to hit a target," he said. "You owe the people around you a measure of responsibility."

[tombogan03884]

He is just trying to drum up business. NH and Vermont don't require any kind of training and have very few if any gun handling injuries per year.
At least I can not remember one that did not involve hunting in the last 50 years.

[TAB]

He is just trying to drum up business. NH and Vermont don't require any kind of training and have very few if any gun handling injuries per year.
At least I can not remember one that did not involve hunting in the last 50 years.

both of those states have very low populations.  The more people doing something, the better chance it will happen.  I'd also be willing to bet that it does happen, but its not covered by the media.

[tombogan03884]

both of those states have very low populations.  The more people doing something, the better chance it will happen.  I'd also be willing to bet that it does happen, but its not covered by the media.

If I didn't live here I would agree with you, but I have seen the population double or triple with imports from Mass and other urban areas with out any increase in accidents , in fact, a decrease even in hunting accidents.

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[TAB]

What are the numbers of people hunting?  I'd bet they are down as well.

[tombogan03884]

What are the numbers of people hunting?  I'd bet they are down as well.

That's true every where, but they never exceeded three or four a year, for the last 15 or 20 years the annual number has been 0-1, and usually the one is some one who misidentified his target.

[TAB]

I've never understood how some one can mis ID thier target.  I can understand a pass thru shot  or a miss and hitting some one in full cammo. but mistakening a person from some one else?  Thats pure neglagence.