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But... but... they only take jobs Americans won't do!
« on: May 01, 2010, 07:08:26 AM »
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Arizona deputy shot; illegal immigrants suspected
By BOB CHRISTIE, Associated Press Writer Bob Christie, Associated Press Writer 2 hrs 8 mins ago

PHOENIX – Law officers backed by helicopters hunted gunmen in Arizona's desert early Saturday after a sheriff's deputy was wounded by suspected illegal immigrants believed to be smuggling marijuana, officials said. The violent episode came amid nationwide debate over the state's tough new immigration law.

Pinal County Deputy Louie Puroll was patrolling alone Friday afternoon in a rugged area near Interstate 8, about 50 miles south of Phoenix, when he came upon a band of suspected smugglers, authorities said.

At least one of five suspects opened fire on the 53-year-old lawman, tearing a chunk of skin from just above his left kidney. The officer was found after a frantic hourlong search, Pinal County sheriff's Lt. Tamatha Villar said.

The wound was not serious and Puroll was released Friday night from Casa Grande Regional Medical Center.

State and federal law enforcement agencies deployed helicopters and scores of officers to search a 100 square-mile zone near the Interstate and Arizona 84 for the suspects. The Arizona Republic reported officials said more than one of the choppers came under fire during the manhunt.

The Pinal Sheriff's department told The Associated Press that the hunt into the early morning hours Saturday but no arrests had been made.

The shooting was likely to add fuel to an already fiery national debate sparked last week when Gov. Jan Brewer signed a law cracking down on illegal immigration in the state.

A backlash over the law has surged with civil rights activists, concerned it will lead to racial profiling, calling for protests and a boycott of the state.

The new law's passage came amid increasing anger in Arizona about violence, drug smugglers, illegal immigration drop houses and other problems that some say are caused by poor border security. The issue gained focus a month ago when a southern Arizona rancher was shot and killed by a suspected illegal border crosser.

Arizona politicians called Friday's shooting an outrage and urged the federal government to do more to secure the border with Mexico.

"Regardless of the outcome of tonight's manhunt and investigation, Arizona is now confronted by some of the most vicious and dangerous narco-terror organizations the world has seen," Brewer said in a statement.

Rep. Kirkpatrick, a Democrat whose district includes part of Pinal County, said the violence "should show the rest of the country what we Arizonans have known for too long — the unsecured border poses a very real and very immediate danger."

Puroll, a 15-year department veteran, had been carrying out smuggling interdiction work before finding the bales of marijuana and encountering the five suspected illegal immigrants, two armed with rifles.

"He was out on his routine daily patrol in the area when he encountered a load of marijuana out in the desert. He obviously confronted the individuals and took fire," Villar told The AP.

The Republic quoted Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu as saying about 30 bullets were fired at the deputy, who returned fire with a semi-automatic rifle and a handgun.

The area is a well-known smuggling corridor for drugs and illegal immigrants headed from Mexico to Phoenix and the U.S. interior.

"(Puroll) is a search-and-rescue deputy, so its not uncommon for them to work those areas A) looking for drugs and B) looking for people who need assistance out there," Villar said.
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Re: But... but... they only take jobs Anericans won't do!
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2010, 08:30:30 AM »
Damn laws!  Leave illegals alone, leave smugglers alone, leave drugs alone, leave em all alone, and we won't have these problems!

By the way, be sure and set a great big bucket of vasoline handy when you do the above and stick your head in the sand, because ...

 >:(

My prayers to this deputy and his family.  Also to those risking their lives to continue to protect us and try and find these criminals.
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Re: But... but... they only take jobs Anericans won't do!
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2010, 12:28:46 PM »
One of my Co Workers spent one day this week cleaning up a shit flood do to a broken sewer line in our storage building.
There aren't any jobs American's will not do. Every time a factory is raided for illegal's it is overwhelmed with applications from Americans.

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Re: But... but... they only take jobs Anericans won't do!
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2010, 12:37:46 PM »
Hey now M58! There are plenty of hard working Americans wiling to deal drugs if given the chancce. They've just been undercut by cheap imported labor and the fact that its become a Spanish language business. ;D
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Re: But... but... they only take jobs Anericans won't do!
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2010, 07:34:17 AM »
 Jobs Americans won't do? I call BS on that one every chance I get, I did many of those jobs as a teen and younger man! Money didn't come my way for nothing and one of the wisest things I ever heard was from the first man I worked for in construction. "All I ask from life is my health and the opportunity to work" and with that he made his way through life on his terms. So liberals and all you  people who believe we need this invasion you are wrong and it will destroy our quality of life.
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Re: But... but... they only take jobs Americans won't do!
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Re: But... but... they only take jobs Anericans won't do!
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2010, 07:54:36 AM »
One of my Co Workers spent one day this week cleaning up a shit flood do to a broken sewer line in our storage building.
There aren't any jobs American's will not do. Every time a factory is raided for illegal's it is overwhelmed with applications from Americans.

On target. I watched American sheetrocking workers in the '80s (skilled, btw) lose $12 - $15/hr jobs to illegals who worked for minimum wage or less.  Yep, Americans didn't want those jobs, or roofing for that matter. Quality workmanship in those areas now? Pfft.

I'm thinking most of the kids entering the workforce in the last 20 years or so were getting progressively 'entitled'. Felt the world owed them the big bucks for no knowledge or work ethic.  Fortunately, I'm seeing that change in the customer sites I'm visiting recently. Kids working their way through college, and they are developing a sense of worth through effort rather than entitlement.
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Me: Naw, we just apply a gun-shaped remedy to those extreme life threatening situations that call for it. All the less urgent problems we're willing to discuss.

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Re: But... but... they only take jobs Americans won't do!
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2010, 08:15:31 AM »
First why hire a American for $10 an hour when these employers hire three illegals for the same amount. The illegals will not complain about anything. They do not have to pay for health or retirement benefits.
I see a lot of kids that will not work for $10 an hour in the fields at all. They want a job sitting behind a desk with full benefits $20 dollars an hour, no work skills and to sit there and just collect the money with a nasty attitude.
The older generations have worked for and deserve the money they earn. I worked tomato fields from sun up to sun down for $2 an hour. Then I would go help unload hay into barns. I agree with Fatman in reference to entitlement attitude that a lot of the new generation has.

 
On target. I watched American sheetrocking workers in the '80s (skilled, btw) lose $12 - $15/hr jobs to illegals who worked for minimum wage or less.  Yep, Americans didn't want those jobs, or roofing for that matter. Quality workmanship in those areas now? Pfft.

I'm thinking most of the kids entering the workforce in the last 20 years or so were getting progressively 'entitled'. Felt the world owed them the big bucks for no knowledge or work ethic.  Fortunately, I'm seeing that change in the customer sites I'm visiting recently. Kids working their way through college, and they are developing a sense of worth through effort rather than entitlement.
Citizens sleep peacfully at night knowing that rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf - George Orwell

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Re: But... but... they only take jobs Anericans won't do!
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2010, 09:14:53 AM »
Jobs Americans won't do? I call BS on that one every chance I get, I did many of those jobs as a teen and younger man! Money didn't come my way for nothing and one of the wisest things I ever heard was from the first man I worked for in construction. "All I ask from life is my health and the opportunity to work" and with that he made his way through life on his terms. So liberals and all you  people who believe we need this invasion you are wrong and it will destroy our quality of life.

100% spot on....except for the tense in the last sentence.  I would say. "...it is destroying our quality of life."

I would venture to say there are a lot of "enlightened people" who are much smarter than we are and who have jobs that don't really produce or provide anything who desperately want illegals to do work so they can stay in an air conditioned office and pontificate to the rest of us.  Elsewise the "enlightened few" would be cutting our lawns and digging ditches instead of gracing us with their errorless hot air.
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Re: But... but... they only take jobs Anericans won't do!
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2010, 02:04:08 PM »
On target. I watched American sheetrocking workers in the '80s (skilled, btw) lose $12 - $15/hr jobs to illegals who worked for minimum wage or less.  Yep, Americans didn't want those jobs, or roofing for that matter. Quality workmanship in those areas now? Pfft.

I'm thinking most of the kids entering the workforce in the last 20 years or so were getting progressively 'entitled'. Felt the world owed them the big bucks for no knowledge or work ethic.  Fortunately, I'm seeing that change in the customer sites I'm visiting recently. Kids working their way through college, and they are developing a sense of worth through effort rather than entitlement.

as a tradesmen, illegals have destoryed the trades.  They have drasticly cut the wages and the skill level just sucks.  I use to get under bid by them all the time.  What ticks me off is when they would under bid me by less then my costs.  Sucks when you know they are stealing stuff to complete the job.
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