Gun Owners

[Outlaw]

Marshal'ette is still right! We need to get together as a group, all the gun related forums need to get together in some fashion  to get the word out to the politicians about preserving our Second Amendment rights. Individually they already know this but as long as we contact them a handful at a time they're never gonna budge from their own self interests (disarming America). Believe me, I've met and spoke to some of these people. They add a whole new meaning to the term "Self Righteous". Just look at Rudi G. from New york. His ex-wife said it all. Quote "We divorced due to religious differences; He thought he was God and I didn't". The only way we can get them to come to terms is to hit them with a full volley. I think about a million of us could easily do the trick. There has to be at least that many of us if not more. We wouldn't even have to go to the Capitol steps. Just everyone at once send an email to thier respective politician. If nothing else, we could definately play hell with their servers handling all that mail. That would get their attention. If we didn't see some kind of immediate response, we go to plan B, march to the Capitol steps. We could even let the media know in advance about the emails and send them a like copy.  Something has to work and it needs to be done before election time. Maybe the site Moderators could get together and figure something out. I'd be willing to help if I had a clue.

[tombogan03884]

Marshal'ette, I have to point out that I would prefer to do it when they aren't there. I've got an 8th grade education and I already thought of provoking an incedent to discredit us. If I can think of that you bet your bottom dollar some of those Proffesional SOB's will think of it. (I'm just an SOB for fun, not profit  )

[tombogan03884]

Outlaw you have a great idea there with the mass e-mailing. The trick is we need a coordinated series of actions to keep our issues in the public eye. That was one of the tactics used by the OTHER civil rights movement. The average voter who doesn't make an effort to stay informed is the audiance we have to sway. Repitition ad nuaseum worked for the Blacks, The antiwar movement and the Gays. We need to keep hammering the point into Joe Sixpack's head that we have informed ourselves and we are not going to let the govt enslave us, or him.

[tombogan03884]

Thanx Marshal, I'm going to check out both links.

[gunman1911]

I just got done reading tombogam03884's blog at www.tombrogan03884.wordpress.com that he set up for this rally and it is there to inform people of this cause and you can leave comments so that way we can find out what is going to work best and also my hats off to tom for taking the time to kick this off . The more we send in our emails the better we are to show them the masses that they ( the fat cats) that we mean business and are serious about this issue . Its time to rally up, after all Tom and I are just a couple of little fellas trying get a nation wide rally formed and it is obvious that we are going to need more than this form to do it so please pass the word along . Also I think a petition to be singed at each state rally and submitted to our governing bodes would not hurt either. After all they can deny the individual but dare deny the masses?

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[tombogan03884]

Thankyou for the kind words gunman1911. I will take this chance to say that beyond being opinionated I don't have much of a clue what I'm doing , so suggestions are WELCOME

[Outlaw]

I think it should begin with the individual site/organization managers/moderators (whatever) to get together and post it on their individual sites, then send it to all the other sites for co-ordination. (it's definately gonna take a co-ordinated effort on their part.) Draft a letter specific to our stand. I think the individual emails would hit home a lot harder. Then a specific time (probably Zulu time) for all individuals to send it at one time. I think the best time would probably be in the early evening, that way they would all get it first thing in the morning. Not on a Friday, Send it on a Sunday evening. Send it to all the states local media also. They'll all get it first thing Monday morning. They'll have all week to think about it and talk it over with one another. If we send it on Friday, they'll probably think we'll cool off by monday. Wrong The magic is going to be the numbers. We need tens of thousands from each state. Usually on each website there is a list of lpolitician contact email addresses from the bottom of the totem pole all the way to Bush himself. The emails need to go to all of them from the bottom up. No-one gets left out of the picture. We need to tell all the politicians what we want and that we want it by election time. We'll have to send followup letters every couple of months to let them know it wasn't just a bunch of BS. Each sender can contact their respective Moderator to inform them that they sent the email. That way we can get the total numbers and If Washington tries to downplay the total numbers (which I'm sure they will) we can send it again.

These are just a few of my own thoughts. Feel free to jump in and correct or suggest different strategies. How about a couple of Moderators dialing in with their thoughts? Thanx for listening.
J.C.

[gunman1911]

Sending all those emailes is a great idea. I've gone to two other forums and posted this plan  and on one meet with alot of negitvity why - because they say the  NRA and other organizations are there an if they wanted us to march they  woiuld have done so and you have to do more than put a check in the mail, yes it is a good idea to let all these  organizations know what we are trying to do and I'll try my dammedist to get them to listern but in my personal opinion they are not going to listen to just little o'le me in my tee shirt and blue jeans and the fact I have not made a movie yet, wwe need to bombard them with emails as well  and let them know that were tired of watching the ball go noware and just waiting to be kicked. It is time we stood up Its time we said get the ball rolling on  our side or you do not get the check its time hey got this issue done and over with our forefathers, fathers,uncles, cousens and brothers had spilled there blood for and I will not I repeat I WILL NOT let them down by just sending a check!

[Outlaw]

I really hate to say it, but it seems like the NRA is comfortable taking your money and then cutting deals with the politicians. Every deal ends up being another tiny slice out of the pie for gun owners. It's pretty much a give and take senario. The politicians aren't going to do squat for gun owners unless gun owners give up a little. Well, soon fellow Americans our side of the pie will be gone. The NRA and all the other larger organizations need to know we're done cutting deals. It's the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States by God, and they're not authorized to slice it in any form or fashion. It don't take a freakin rocket scientist to understand the eighth grade level writing of that document. Besides, there's nothing that belonging to any of those organizations that says we can't act on our own. It appears the only time they act is when a bill or act is already written and sent forward and then we have to jump through our asses to try and salvage as much as we can of whatever they are taking away. Besides, it won't hurt any of the organizations if we let the politicians know just how strong we are. I really don't think they know. And for anyone at the head of the NRA or wherever to tell us to not rock the boat sounds a little fishy to me. But that's just my opinion. Opinions are like a**holes; everybody has one, some people are one.

[Hazcat]

Outlaw,

If you have read some of my other posts then you know I feel the same way. 

I call it NO MORE.  No more deals, no more voting for the lesser evil, no more support for politicians and organizations that don't support us 100%, no more be happy just to keep what we have, no more death by a thousand cuts.  NO MORE!