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Mexicans arrest five Guatemalan migrants
« on: May 17, 2010, 09:56:39 PM »
Maybe our Gov. should get training in mexico on how to enforce immigration laws!

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Prensa Libre (Guatemala) 5/14/10

Mexicans arrest five Guatemalan migrants

Five Guatemalans en route to the US were arrested from a bus by Mexican authorities in Escuinapa, Sinaloa.  The bus had a minor accident with a car and while the drivers were discussing the blame, one of “our countrymen” left the bus for “physiological needs” and was then confronted by a Mexican policeman who questioned him.  The Guatemalan claimed to be a Mexican from Puebla, but at that moment, his cell phone rang and the policeman obliged him to answer.  The voice on the other end advised him of the presence of “authorities in that area.”  This led the police to the bus and the arrest of the other four.  They will be deported back to Guatemala.  [Ed. note: Police in Mexico are authorized to arrest illegal aliens.]

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Re: Mexicans arrest five Guatemalan migrants
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2010, 10:06:18 PM »
It works for Mexico, it will work here too.
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Re: Mexicans arrest five Guatemalan migrants
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2010, 10:16:21 PM »
Reminds me of a George Carlin joke. Something about tropical fruit  ;D

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Re: Mexicans arrest five Guatemalan migrants
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2010, 10:55:31 PM »
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2010-05/14/content_9850042.htm

Mexican authorities detain 535 illegal immigrants
Updated: 2010-05-14 11:06
 
MEXICO CITY - Mexican authorities have detained 535 undocumented immigrants so far this month, the Public Security Ministry said on Thursday.

The single largest number of arrests took place on Wednesday in Veracruz, a state on Mexico's eastern coast, the ministry said in a statement. Police halted a train in Texistepec, where cargo trains travel en route to the United States. Eight-two people onboard were arrested, 54 of them were from Honduras, 21 Guatemalans, five Salvadorians, one from Nicaragua and another from Belize. Five of those arrested where minors.

During a separate operation, police arrested 10 Hondurans travelling onboard a cargo train in Tepaeapulco, a small town in the central Hidalgo state.

Last month, Mexico's army rescued 16 people who were held hostage in a farm in the northern Nuevo Leon state, and killed two armed men at the scene. The hostages, including a woman and her two-year-old son, were being held in chains and handcuff

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Re: Mexicans arrest five Guatemalan migrants
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2010, 01:45:54 AM »
Those racist!  Sorry I just wanted to be the first
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Re: Mexicans arrest five Guatemalan migrants
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Re: Mexicans arrest five Guatemalan migrants
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2010, 08:48:45 PM »
Is it just me, or is the Mexican Government, doing a better job of keeping illegals, ( admitted not their own people ) from entering the U.S.?
"Mexican authorities detain 535 illegal immigrants
Updated: 2010-05-14 11:06
 
MEXICO CITY - Mexican authorities have detained 535 undocumented immigrants so far this month, the Public Security Ministry said on Thursday."

That could be 6,000 a year. How well is ICE working comparatively??

Might have been easier to ask for some cash and let them into our country, but then that would be taking jobs from Mexican illegals, taking jobs from Americans, sending money back to Mexico, where the others would be sending money back to other countries.  ???
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Re: Mexicans arrest five Guatemalan migrants
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2010, 10:14:37 PM »
My thoughts? As far a test program for comprehensive immigration reform, we do the following: Lets test the "guest workers' provision. Give these guys a year long visa, pay them Border Patrol wages and let them ferret out illegall Guetemalans here in Florida. Somehow I think lots of folks will wind up mowing their own grass before years end. ;)
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Re: Mexicans arrest five Guatemalan migrants
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2010, 06:34:38 AM »
 Good to hear that, but they have a long way to go. The tune 'Rawhide' comes to mind. I put some ceiling fans in a Customers rent house yesterday, the bangers living there have trashed the place. Car dissected in the front yard, two dogs that have completely ruined the carpet, they didn't even stop smoking weed while I was working there. The tattoos they wore were bad news. We have to clean this country up America.

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Re: Mexicans arrest five Guatemalan migrants
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2010, 09:30:34 PM »
Having El Presidente Calderon here whining and sniveling about AZ was great, wish the media could have had the cohones to ask Calderon to describe Mexican Law for "illegal immigrants"

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Re: Mexicans arrest five Guatemalan migrants
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2010, 01:43:48 AM »
  Just enforce the f&%#ing laws ! How hard is that ?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100520/ap_on_bi_ge/us_us_mexico



WASHINGTON – Confronting soaring frustration over illegal immigration, President Barack Obama on Wednesday condemned Arizona's crackdown and pushed instead for a federal fix the nation could embrace. He said that will never happen without Republican support, pleading: "I need some help."

In asking anew for an immigration overhaul, Obama showed solidarity with his guest of honor, Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who called Arizona's law discriminatory and warned Mexico would reject any effort to "criminalize migration." The United States and Mexico share a significant economic and political relationship that stands to be damaged the more the nations are at odds over immigration, which affects millions of people on both sides of the border.

Obama sought to show that he, too, is fed up with his own government's failure to fix a system widely seen as broken. He said that would require solving border security, employment and citizenship issues all at once — the kind of effort that collapsed in Congress just three years ago.

The president's stand underscored the forces working against him in this election year: the need for help from Republican critics, the impatience of states like Arizona after federal inaction, the pressure to show movement on a campaign promise, and the mood of the public disgusted by porous borders.

The Arizona law requires police to question people about their immigration status if there's reason to suspect they're in the country illegally, and it makes it a state crime to be in the U.S. illegally. People may be questioned about their status if they've been stopped by police who are in the process of enforcing another law.

The law will take effect July 29 unless legal challenges are successful. Almost twice as many people support it as those who oppose it, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll this month. It found that 42 percent favored it, 24 percent opposed it and another 29 percent said they were neutral.

Yet in a Rose Garden appearance with Calderon, Obama called the Arizona law "a misdirected expression of frustration." He expects to announce soon what action his government may take about it, once the Justice Department finishes reviewing whether the law violates civil rights.

"In the United States of America, no law-abiding person — be they an American citizen, a legal immigrant, or a visitor or tourist from Mexico — should ever be subject to suspicion simply because of what they look like," Obama said.

Calderon was upbeat about the chance of finding a fair, dignified way of dealing with migrants. He added: "Many of them, despite their significant contribution to the economy and to the society of the United States, still live in the shadows, and occasionally, as in Arizona, they even face discrimination."

The immigration theme dominated a day of pageantry and showy support for Calderon, who enjoyed a state visit with his wife, Margarita Zavala.

The Mexican president was treated to a grand welcome on the South Lawn in the morning. Wednesday night, 200 guests were invited for a state dinner in the East Room, followed by entertainment back on the lawn under cover of an enormous tent. Obama repeatedly offered U.S. support for Calderon's government, particularly in his aggressive fight against drug traffickers, a violent battle that has left roughly 23,000 people dead since the end of 2006.

On immigration, Obama's criticism of the Arizona law is easier than the fix he wants: getting his own party and Republicans to pass an immigration overhaul.

His plan calls improving border security, ensuring employers are held accountable if they try to hire undocumented workers or break other laws, and assigning a series of responsibilities on the millions of people living in the United States illegally. Those include requiring them to pay a penalty and back taxes, learn English and get in line toward becoming a legal resident and citizen of the country.

Republican President George W. Bush tried to get that the kind of package through Congress in his second term, once confidently telling reporters: "I'll see you at the bill signing." He never did. The effort collapsed on Capitol Hill in 2007, as critics charged that the measure amounted to amnesty for lawbreakers.

This time around, Obama said: "I'm actually confident that we can get it done."

But in a political tutorial on the path ahead, Obama said he didn't have the 60 votes he needs in the Senate to overcome vote-killing stall tactics. Democrats and independents hold 59 Senate seats. Obama said he will seek the Republican support he needs.

"It's my job to work with members of Congress to see that happen," the president said. Again, though, even he has questioned Congress' will this year.

Senate supporters have unveiled a framework as a starting point, but time is running short for any real action in 2010, frustrating in particular the many Hispanic voters who want progress. The outcome of fall elections could determine whether Congress takes up immigration next year.

Calderon will have a chance to make his case directly to U.S. lawmakers on Thursday during an address to Congress.

Meanwhile, Obama and Calderon emerged from their talks heralding expanded cooperation on trade, energy, intellectual property and student exchanges.

Obama reaffirmed his commitment to Calderon's offensive in the deadly drug wars, too.

"This is not just a problem in Mexico," Obama said. "It is a problem that the United States has to address. ... It is absolutely true that U.S. demand for drugs helps to drive this public safety crisis within Mexico and so we've got an obligation not to drive the demand side of the equation."

 

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