AGREE? SHERIFF JOE: 'NO TOURISM TO MEXICO'

[billt]

The problem here is not laws, and or what they'll "allow" us to do, but rather with a democratic and Republican government that doesn't want to piss off the hispanic vote. It's the reason Bush did nothing with the border, and Hussein will do even less. Republicans want to exploit the cheap labor, and the dems want to provide them with handouts to buy their vote. It's just that simple. The sore is festering enough to where something is going to be done regardless of the politics of the moment. If anything "good" is being accomplished by the mexican drug cartels, it is the fact they are proving how we need to seal the border, and do it quickly.  Bill T.

[crusader rabbit]

I haven't been able to verify this, but one of the talking heads onFOX made a passing comment that the National Guard would be, "in a support capacity behind desks, not on the frontl ine."

IF that is the case, and that's a big "if," then this is only posturing by Odamna with no real impact on the sanctity of our border.  It sounds like something he would do and it may be accurte information--but I haven't found any confirmation.

I am looking forward to my AZ excursion this weekend, but I would dearly prefer to be armed.  Unfortunately, I am in Kalifornistan, my guns are in Florida, and I'm feeling pretty naked.

Submitted by an anxious Crusader.

[Pathfinder]

I haven't been able to verify this, but one of the talking heads onFOX made a passing comment that the National Guard would be, "in a support capacity behind desks, not on the frontl ine."

IF that is the case, and that's a big "if," then this is only posturing by Odamna with no real impact on the sanctity of our border.  It sounds like something he would do and it may be accurte information--but I haven't found any confirmation.

I am looking forward to my AZ excursion this weekend, but I would dearly prefer to be armed.  Unfortunately, I am in Kalifornistan, my guns are in Florida, and I'm feeling pretty naked.

Submitted by an anxious Crusader.

You expected something else from the cipher-in-chief? You can join up with Bobby Jindal and commiserate together as you wait for bho to get off his azz and do anything to benefit this country.

[jnevis]

Technically, you could probably justify it, but man it ups the ante. Also understand that there will be a body count, thats just soldiers doing what they are trained to do. Neither are necessarily bad things, just not to be casually discounted either. As I posted earlier, the Guard could bring in drones, helos, radar, communications, sattelites etc, that would make the Border Patrol ten times more effective without raising those issues. Militarizing the border? Maybe not a bad idea, but there has to be broad support for it or a bunch of grunts will get hung out to dry.Remember Ramos and Campeon.
FQ13

Hate to break it to you FQ but CBP/ICE has had all the stuff you mentioned on the borders for decades.  BorderSTAR flies helo surveillance and rescue missions out of San Deigo, plus the Aerostat radar balloons are all over AZ and TX with pretty good ISAR (Inverse Synthetic Arpeture Radar, think night vision camera with radar instead of optic and a little less resolution) and Moving Target Indicator (MTI, uses Doppler shift to determine movement and displays and target if moving above X speed).  They now have a small force of Predator and Scan Eagle RPS also.

[tombogan03884]

From FQ :
Militarizing the border?

What an incredible idea !
It's sort of like socialism, it's been tried by nearly ever nation that ever existed, the funny thing is, it often works.

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[billt]

Hate to break it to you FQ but CBP/ICE has had all the stuff you mentioned on the borders for decades.  BorderSTAR flies helo surveillance and rescue missions out of San Deigo, plus the Aerostat radar balloons are all over AZ and TX with pretty good ISAR (Inverse Synthetic Arpeture Radar, think night vision camera with radar instead of optic and a little less resolution) and Moving Target Indicator (MTI, uses Doppler shift to determine movement and displays and target if moving above X speed).  They now have a small force of Predator and Scan Eagle RPS also.

None of this crap would be necessary if they just shot the first 50 over the fence. The rest would run like rabbits.  Bill T.

[fightingquaker13]

None of this crap would be necessary if they just shot the first 50 over the fence. The rest would run like rabbits.  Bill T.

If we did that, we'd be at war with Mexico inside of a week. Worse still, we'd win.
FQ13 who says thanks, but no.

[billt]

If we did that, we'd be at war with Mexico inside of a week. Worse still, we'd win.
FQ13 who says thanks, but no.

I doubt it. They have enough trouble fighting the drug cartels. That isn't going too well. They're losing cops and military left and right. The last thing they want is a war with us. They would rather just whine and scream about "human rights" and "racism".  Bill T.

[JC5123]

None of this crap would be necessary if they just shot the first 50 over the fence. The rest would run like rabbits.  Bill T.

Electric fence. I'm sure Arizona wouldn't mind diverting the power from L.A. 

[PegLeg45]

Posted this before:

Dig a moat along the US-Mexico border.
Stock it with the excess gators and pythons from the Florida swamps.
Use the excess dirt from digging the moat to shore up the levees around New Orleans.