(Non-Gun) But, my first step in Fed. Gov. Reductions

[tombogan03884]

In my current and past jobs I have seen parts formerly ordered in the US transferred to Mexican and Chinese factories.
I have also seen those jobs come back  (temporarily ) because they could not meet our quality standards.

[MikeBjerum]

I think that in fighting for higher wages, new buildings , more money etc they have lost track of the fact that the objective is turn turn out educated citizens, not to simply get more $ .

This points to the same thing I am trying to fight with my thought.  Education has gone the same way that ruined the railroads.

At some point the rail road companies started to focus too much on their job of running a railroad and forgot that their real purpose was to move people and goods long distances.

Our educators have placed more focus on running schools, and not enough focus on teaching our youth.

[fightingquaker13]

This points to the same thing I am trying to fight with my thought.  Education has gone the same way that ruined the railroads.

At some point the rail road companies started to focus too much on their job of running a railroad and forgot that their real purpose was to move people and goods long distances.

Our educators have placed more focus on running schools, and not enough focus on teaching our youth.

The same happens with any organization. Its called goal displacement. Humans are rational (for the most part) creatures. Generally a good thing, but not always. Folks follow the lines of least resistance and maximum profit. Hospitals thus operate for the benefit of doctors they have to deal with everyday, and the insurance companies that pay the bills. Not the patients who come and go. The Airlines are more worried about money, regularity and safety (read avoiding liability) than passenger comfort. School systems service the bureaucrats in charge and the special interest group (PC tree huggers or right wing Christians, take your pick depending on location), more than the teachers and students. And no one dares criticize half assed parents who don't teach their kids manners or help them with their homework (or even make sure they do it). Its just human nature to feather your own nest rather than do the job you are hired to do. There are a thousand "good" reasons to think you are doing the "right" thing. Its easy to justify it to yourself. Most folks do. The only way around it is better rules, not better men. This is where idealists of the left and right come to grief. They think they can rely on human nature, the right leaders and values on the right, the right education on the left. They are both fools. Human nature is constant. The best you can do is design a system that turns vice to virtue by making self interest work for the common good. Anything else is pissing in the wind.
FQ13 who regrets to say that he has gotten a bit cynical in old age 

[tombogan03884]

The same happens with any organization. Its called goal displacement. Humans are rational (for the most part) creatures. Generally a good thing, but not always. Folks follow the lines of least resistance and maximum profit. Hospitals thus operate for the benefit of doctors they have to deal with everyday, and the insurance companies that pay the bills. Not the patients who come and go. The Airlines are more worried about money, regularity and safety (read avoiding liability) than passenger comfort. School systems service the bureaucrats in charge and the special interest group (PC tree huggers or right wing Christians, take your pick depending on location), more than the teachers and students. And no one dares criticize half assed parents who don't teach their kids manners or help them with their homework (or even make sure they do it). Its just human nature to feather your own nest rather than do the job you are hired to do. There are a thousand "good" reasons to think you are doing the "right" thing. Its easy to justify it to yourself. Most folks do. The only way around it is better rules, not better men. This is where idealists of the left and right come to grief. They think they can rely on human nature, the right leaders and values on the right, the right education on the left. They are both fools. Human nature is constant. The best you can do is design a system that turns vice to virtue by making self interest work for the common good. Anything else is pissing in the wind.
FQ13 who regrets to say that he has gotten a bit cynical in old age  

    I actually agree with this.  Especially the part I highlighted.
Now if FQ would apply that same reasoning to diplomacy, he will understand why, being a straight forward, plain spoken person, I think we should Nuke N Korea, and/or Iran.
Beat up one or 2 of the local bullies and the rest will walk soft around you.

[GUNS-R-US]

I just think we need to get rid of federal education system! It doesn't do enough useful things to keep it around. People can get their school loans through their State. Personally I don't think you should get school loans. Work a little and pay Cash! Let the States run their own show. If Alabama or Mississippi doesn't want to provide a good education then they will continue to be shit education systems! So Be It! It isn't anybody else responsibility to do it!

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