Florida comes through again

[Pathfinder]

He's not kidding, I've been behind that person on Rt 1, 45 MPH zone and Ma Kettle is doing a whopping 20 miles an hour.   

In the left lane.

With the left turn signal on.

No, wait, that was on Rte. 19 north of Tampa.

[ericire12]

Yep. But the sane person in me who has to share the road with half the freaking third world, construction dump trucks driven by drivers apparently payed in crack or meth, and geriatric yankees who can't see over the damn steering wheel disagrees. 
FQ13

So, I guess you have changed your mind on ending the prohibition on drugs now? Can you imagine how many more crack/meth dump truck drivers you would have to deal with if it could be bought at the local Quickie Mart? 

[tombogan03884]

So, I guess you have changed your mind on ending the prohibition on drugs now? Can you imagine how many more crack/meth dump truck drivers you would have to deal with if it could be bought at the local Quickie Mart? 

None, because the people who are going to use them already do despite the billions of $ we waste every year to stop them.
Any one who drinks and supports the "war on some drugs" is as stupid and illogical as a gun grabber.

[ericire12]

None, because the people who are going to use them already do despite the billions of $ we waste every year to stop them.
Any one who drinks and supports the "war on some drugs" is as stupid and illogical as a gun grabber.

If they were made legal more people would partake and traffic fatalities would increase significantly.... The same thing happened with prohibition. We often cite how cars kill more people then guns, but anyone who seriously wanted to make a dent in those numbers would first make drinking illegal again (FYI, I dont want to make drinking illegal).

Many people stay away from those "some drugs" simply because they are illegal and because they wish to remain on the right side of the law. If the law were changed, the number of people who are going to use them would increase.

The war on "some drugs" is nothing more then an attempt to stem the tide of detrimental effects that drugs have on society. It is not a war that will ever be won, and yes the money that it cost to fund is astronomical (however, much is funded with drug money) but you would never want to live in a society where any and all drugs are legal.

[McGyver]

Eric, re-read everything you wrote and replace the word drugs with guns.

Just sayin',  YMMV.

[Sponsor]

[ericire12]

Eric, re-read everything you wrote and replace the word drugs with guns.

Just sayin',  YMMV.

Re-read it and substitute anything you want for the word drugs - right to free speach, right to vote, ability to read, right to life, freedom of religion, etc etc. You can play that silly little game all day, but aside from a debate about who is the most hardcore libertarian it means nothing in the real world. You are comparing apples and cinder blocks.

Guns are not addictive (Yes they are like chips, but you know what I mean). They dont cause crime, they dont cause child neglect, they dont impare driving, they dont diminish your health, and I have never heard of a single case of anyone ever sucking a dick to get a gun... Need I go on?

All I am trying to say here, is that you dont want to live in a society where crack, coke, meth etc are legal. It will greatly increase the proportion of the population that uses, and that stuff can quickly turn fine upstanding citizens into crazed crack heads willing to do anything to get their next fix. It would also increase traffic fatalities.

Yes, you can easily make the case that pot should be legal nation wide, but there are not enough people that smoke pot to ever get that to actually happen - or they are too lazy. Its hard to tell. I personally dont think pot should be legal (JMHO) but I would have no problems with making it essentially on par with a traffic violation.

[Solus]

If they were made legal more people would partake and traffic fatalities would increase significantly.... The same thing happened with prohibition. We often cite how cars kill more people then guns, but anyone who seriously wanted to make a dent in those numbers would first make drinking illegal again (FYI, I dont want to make drinking illegal).

Many people stay away from those "some drugs" simply because they are illegal and because they wish to remain on the right side of the law. If the law were changed, the number of people who are going to use them would increase.

The war on "some drugs" is nothing more then an attempt to stem the tide of detrimental effects that drugs have on society. It is not a war that will ever be won, and yes the money that it cost to fund is astronomical (however, much is funded with drug money) but you would never want to live in a society where any and all drugs are legal.

so, these same folks who want to stay on the right side of the law won't go DUI and get on the wrong side of the law....net zero increase in DUI

[McGyver]

I didn't say I don't agree, just lookin' from a different angle.

[ericire12]

so, these same folks who want to stay on the right side of the law won't go DUI and get on the wrong side of the law....net zero increase in DUI

Knowing I was over the legal limit and might get a DUI has made me hand over the keys several times when "I knew I would be fine" to get home. I also dont smoke pot mainly because it is illegal.

Prohibition does work on a macro level - it is estimated that it decreased alcohol consumption by 30%-50% in the overall population.

[Timothy]

Unfortunatly, we humans are all susceptible to overindulgent behavior.  Making something legal or illegal won't ever change that and it doesn't matter if it's alcohol, drugs, gambling, sex or whatever.  Those of us who've managed to avoid letting it get the better of us won't change either.  Some folks can, some folks can't.  If you give a mouse a cookie, he'll want a glass of milk!

I'd much rather see the monies wasted on the drug wars going to other, more fruitful endeavors.

Speaking from experience, there are more people addicted to legal drugs in this country than the illegal ones, it's just hidden behind a prescription label.  After my accident, it took me nearly a year to kick the pain medications and I'm not talking ibuprofen.