Author Topic: 5 Taliban Killed In 28 Seconds At OVER 1MILE ! More "Sniper" B.S.  (Read 3495 times)

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2960837/Sniper-shoots-5-Taliban-in-28-seconds-in-Helmand-Afghanistan.html

"It took me nine rounds but I took him down with the ninth.

Then the other four had moved closer, so I took them down as well.

They were taken down in the next 28 seconds."


I'm sorry, but I'm not buying any of it. Certainly not in "28 seconds". Here is why. He said in his own words it took him 9 rounds to hit the first guy. Then, he "took the other 4 as well". Assuming he killed each one of the 4 with just one round, that would mean a total of 13 rounds were fired minimally in just 28 seconds at targets that were at least ONE MILE AWAY! 13 rounds in 28 seconds equals 2.15 seconds per shot! This from a .338 Lapua rifle that only holds 5 rounds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_military_rifles

"Calibre .338 Lapua Magnum (8.58x70mm) (L115 / AWM), 7,62x51mm NATO (L96 / AW) Weight 6.8 kg, Length 1,300 mm, Muzzle velocity 936 m/s, Feed 5-round box and Effective range 1,100 m plus."

So in order to fire 13 rounds in 28 seconds, he would have to not only shoot at the rate of one round every 2.15 seconds, but he would also have to RELOAD 3 TIMES! Even if he had an extended magazine that held 13 rounds, (which he didn't), there is no way you are going to accurately acquire man sized targets one mile away, fire, work the bolt, reacquire the target, and fire again in the small span of 2.15 seconds. You can see in the picture there in fact is no extended magazine in his rifle. They show it resting flat and being supported from the trigger guard forward. They also show him holding it, and the magazine is flush. So it is no more than a 5 round capacity. I'm calling complete and total B.S,  Bill T.

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Re: 5 Taliban Killed In 28 Seconds At OVER 1MILE ! More "Sniper" B.S.
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2010, 06:13:19 AM »
I was with him when he admitted it took 9 shots to hit the first guy, but he lost me on the 28 seconds too. 


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Re: 5 Taliban Killed In 28 Seconds At OVER 1MILE ! More "Sniper" B.S.
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2010, 06:35:17 AM »
 The headline of the article said he took out 5 Taliban in 28 seconds, period. He himself said it took him 9 rounds to hit the first guy. He then "took out the other 4". All 5 were killed in 28 seconds per the headline. No matter how you cut it, he had to fire the rifle 13 times in 28 seconds, and kill 5 people in the process over 1 mile away.

All this from a rifle that only holds 5 rounds. No how, no way. Complete and total B.S.   Bill T.

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Re: 5 Taliban Killed In 28 Seconds At OVER 1MILE ! More "Sniper" B.S.
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2010, 06:49:15 AM »
Another thing you have to believe, is that after he popped the first guy, (after admittingly shooting 9 rounds at him before he hit him), all 5 just stood there and patiently waited to be killed. No one is going to stay put after the guy you were having coffee with just got ripped to shreds by 9 incoming rounds, 8 of which didn't hit! I can't believe they would print such nonsense, and expect anyone to believe it.  Bill T.

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Re: 5 Taliban Killed In 28 Seconds At OVER 1MILE ! More "Sniper" B.S.
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2010, 07:01:13 AM »
Another thing you have to believe, is that after he popped the first guy, (after admittingly shooting 9 rounds at him before he hit him), all 5 just stood there and patiently waited to be killed. No one is going to stay put after the guy you were having coffee with just got ripped to shreds by 9 incoming rounds, 8 of which didn't hit! I can't believe they would print such nonsense, and expect anyone to believe it.  Bill T.

Actually, he said he killed them in 28 seconds.  It could be the clock started when the first guy was taken down with the last of the 9 shots.  If the other 4 were one shots (not likely) it might have only been 5 shots in the 28 seconds.

Also, he says  "they" were taken down in 28 seconds.  The  "they" might refer to the last four targets
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Re: 5 Taliban Killed In 28 Seconds At OVER 1MILE ! More "Sniper" B.S.
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2010, 07:30:38 AM »
28 seconds is a LONG time when you're receiving fire.   Bill T.

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Re: 5 Taliban Killed In 28 Seconds At OVER 1MILE ! More "Sniper" B.S.
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2010, 08:00:32 AM »
But, he'd lubed the action with unicorn grease and was using a special "fast action" provided by the Odamna Oil Spill Response Team.  I'm buying it.  Now, I'm going to the corner to hit myself in the head with a hammer for awhile.

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Re: 5 Taliban Killed In 28 Seconds At OVER 1MILE ! More "Sniper" B.S.
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2010, 08:10:24 AM »
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2010, 08:26:46 AM »
Actually, he said he killed them in 28 seconds.  It could be the clock started when the first guy was taken down with the last of the 9 shots.  If the other 4 were one shots (not likely) it might have only been 5 shots in the 28 seconds.

Also, he says  "they" were taken down in 28 seconds.  The  "they" might refer to the last four targets

Agree. After the first guy went down, the next four were taken in '"the next" 28 seconds.
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Re: 5 Taliban Killed In 28 Seconds At OVER 1MILE ! More "Sniper" B.S.
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2010, 09:48:19 AM »
Agree. After the first guy went down, the next four were taken in '"the next" 28 seconds.

It depends who you want to believe. It states 3 different times, 5 men were killed in 28 seconds. 1.) The headline of the article. 2.) The lead paragraph that is highlighted. 3.) In the side article written by Mr. McNab titled, "My View". I think it's all B.S. Ever notice how these sniper records that were held for years, are now being broken what seems like every few weeks? Each time they are the story becomes all the more difficult to believe.  Bill T.

 

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