McDonald v. Chicago - a 5-4 victory applies to state and local regulations

[ericire12]

I am again shocked that 4 did not agree. 

Politics as usual

[GUNS-R-US]

I am again shocked that 4 did not agree.  

It's become part of the liberal bible to oppose guns. So I can say I'm really shocked. I was wondering which way Sotomayor was going to go because of some of the questions she asked, but I'm still not shocked at the way she voted.

The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence is a national non-profit organization working to reduce gun violence in America through education, research and legal advocacy. Through its Legal Action Project, the Brady Center provides pro bono legal assistance to gun violence victims and public entities seeking to establish legal principles that will reduce gun violence.  The Brady Center complements the legislative and grassroots mobilization efforts of its sister organization, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence with its dedicated network of Million Mom March Chapters.

This guy is a real lunatic! Their isn't a bit of that statement that is true!

[Woody]

What do you want to bet the death rate goes down in Chicago, and Daley is seen for what he is.
Great day for gun owners and the right to self defense, bad day for criminals.
 The very thought of guns any where and everywhere deters evil. G Washington

[ericire12]

Here is a good read on it, with some of the best parts of Alito's writtings:

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/06/28/breaking-court-strikes-chicago-handgun-ban/

[tt11758]

What do you want to bet the death rate goes down in Chicago, and Daley is seen for what he is.
Great day for gun owners and the right to self defense, bad day for criminals.
 The very thought of guns any where and everywhere deters evil. G Washington

Maybe, maybe not.  Honest people will now be able to OWN guns, not carry them.  It'll still be just the bad guys who can practice concealed carry.

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[WatchManUSA]

I've had Rush on today and he has a interesting take on the decision.  While I have not read the ruling, Rush indicated that the majority view used post-civil war free slaves having and using firearms to defend their freedom and personal safety.  That linked the 2nd Amendment to the 14th Amendment.  Once again the left gets 'windmilled" on their own issue.

I did read that some Chicago politician said that SCOTUS did not strike down the Chicago gun ban.  SCOTUS only decided that the 2nd Amendment attached to the States.  He said that SCOTUS affirmed that 'sensible' anti-gun laws can still be implemented.

The fight ain't over, folks!

[fightingquaker13]

I've never been a Scalia fan, but I've always found him entertaining. Today, he was both right and funnier than usual. That left handed whip song he sent to Stevens is classic. "Sensitivity" indeed! The Constitution is a living document. It is however, a freaking document! Justices are not free to ignore the words on the page and act as tribunes using their own wisdom to write the law of the land. That is as bad as the original intent idiots. If that were the case poor Otis still wouldn't have had his gun as the framers of the 14th ammendment didn't intend it to anything more than cover discrimination based on race. Still, there are those pesky words on a page, "shall not be infringed" and "due process". Hang it your ass Stevens. The only bad news is that the Conservative justices still ignore the "privledges and immunities" clause. That really is a defeat for us and every other group that wants to limit state power. I am happy with the decision today. That said, don't be too happy. It is a tactical, not a strategic victory. Until the the privledges and immunities clause is given teeth, and until the 2A is held to be a "fundamental right", rather than just a "substantive guarantee" we have just won a beach head. Its still a long way to Berlin.
FQ13 who will still open a very nice bottle of wine tonight and say some good things about Alito. I will then curse him for being a statist at heart who could not bring himself to write the words "fundamental right", because if he had, it would have been game over.

[WatchManUSA]

Comments from the Chicago Tribune...
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/06/united-states-supreme-court-scotus-gun-control-rifle-ban-chicago-police-mayor-richard-daley-nra-second-2nd-amendment.html

The high court did not say those challenges will necessarily succeed, however. "Despite doomsday proclamations (from city officials)," Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. said extending the reach of the 2nd Amendment "does not imperil every law regulating firearms."

He repeated earlier assurances that "reasonable regulations" of firearms will be upheld, including restrictions on gun possession by felons and the mentally ill and bans on guns in schools and government buildings.

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An attorney involved in the case advised against Chicagoans running out and purchasing handguns until a lower court rules on the matter later this summer.

"Obviously I'm elated by the court's decision, said attorney David Sigale. "(But) I think it would be prudent to wait."

Sigale said he expects the U.S. District Court to take up the case again in the coming weeks and issue the city directives on the handgun ban and a number of specific ordinances regarding re-registration and pre-registration.

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In an interview with the Tribune, the mayor said his primary goal would be to protect police officers, paramedics and emergency workers from being shot when responding to an incident at a home. He said he also wants to save taxpayers from the financial cost of lawsuits if police shoot someone in the house because the officer felt threatened.

"If the ban is overturned, we will see a lot of common-sense approaches in the city aimed at protecting first responders," Daley said. "We have to have some type of registry. If a first responder goes to an apartment, they need to know if that individual has a gun."

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Wayne LaPierre, chief executive officer of the National Rifle Association, said he was concerned that the  "constitutional victory" of today's ruling will be "turned into a practical defeat by defiant city councils and cynical politicians who seek to nullify or revise this decision through a byzantine labyrinth of regulations and restrictions" to make handgun ownership "unaffordable and inaccessible."

Addressing Daley, LaPierre said: "He's saying, 'I don't care if it's a constitutional right.' The opinion of Mayor Daley doesn't entitle him to throw out the Bill of Rights."

LaPierre, anticipating Daley will protest the high court's ruling, continued, "Can you imagine if he did this with a case about speech, about religion or the right to vote?"

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Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, told reporters that despite the ruling, the court had decided that "reasonable restrictions" to the Second Amendment still are allowed.

He said the court's ruling, while not a surprise, left a "very narrow" definition of a person's Second Amendment rights by saying  right lets a person keeps a gun in a home for self-defense.

He added that he expects criminals convicted of gun charges to challenge their convictions in light of the case.

[GUNS-R-US]

Maybe, maybe not.  Honest people will now be able to OWN guns, not carry them.  It'll still be just the bad guys who can practice concealed carry.

I think and hope this will give a boost to the CCW movement in Illinois and Wisconsin!

[ericire12]

The Constitution is a living document.

Its not a living document, you ass hat!