Hotel intrusion

[ericire12]

Luke: "Lock the door."

Han: "And hope they dont have blasters."

 

[fightingquaker13]

I am going to come back to the law suit thing here. The reason is that the more I think about this, the more outraged and pissed off I get on your daughter's behalf. Here's why. The second she paid for that room and took possesion of the key, it became her domicile. Hers, not the hotel's from whenever she checked in until checkout time. Nobody enters that room without her permission or a warrant until then. Yet the hotel gave away a key. It is no different than if her landlord gave a key to her apartment to a random stranger. It is a fundamental violation of trust. That hotel room was her home for legal purposes that night. The management let someone in. I think I speak for all of us who CCW when I say we are not paranoid, but secyurity conscious. We are aware of our surroundings, carry a firearm and generally invest in good locks, safes, alarms and insurance. The last thing we need is the landlord stabbing us in the back by handing out the key without our permission. Handle it as you wish, your daughter is the injured party. However to me, upon  further thought, this wasn't just a bone head move, but a serious betrayal of trust.
FQ13

[DGF]

Fight, I probably didn't convey the fact that I am also pi$$ed. That a desk clerk would pull such a bonehead move makes me want to have a talk with him. Not only did he put my daughter in harms way but also my granddaughter to be.

[philw]

Fight, I probably didn't convey the fact that I am also pi$$ed. That a desk clerk would pull such a bonehead move makes me want to have a talk with him. Not only did he put my daughter in harms way but also my granddaughter to be.

sopt on   i would of been wanting someone to get torn a new arse hole

[Solus]

Fight, I probably didn't convey the fact that I am also pi$$ed. That a desk clerk would pull such a bonehead move makes me want to have a talk with him. Not only did he put my daughter in harms way but also my granddaughter to be.

Let the management know.   Send them a letter and a phone call to the head of the hotel or chain.  Let them know what happened and ask them what they are going to do to make it right to your daughter.

They don't want a lawsuit and for sure don't want any publicity.  They might make an offer.

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[DGF]

I meant to add that I have ordered the first season of Best Defense for my daughter and son-in law. I watch it every week but they have never seen it. It may be a help.

[DGF]

PhillW, sorry to hear how things are down under. Do you have any kind of movement underway to loosen your self defense laws? Canada is going through a transition, I understand, to do away with their draconian gun laws. Keep on working at it.

[Bidah]

I do  not remember where I saw it, but Mas Ayoob did an excellent bit on staying in hotels and how to secure them.  I know it was a video, but I just don't remember.  I travel a ton (almost as much as MB).  The hotel security on the doors works to buy you time, and also helps with those oops moments when they inadvertently hand out the room a second time (I have had this happen several times over the years).

Yes, the clerk was a bonehead on many levels.

-Bidah

[philw]

PhillW, sorry to hear how things are down under. Do you have any kind of movement underway to loosen your self defense laws? Canada is going through a transition, I understand, to do away with their draconian gun laws. Keep on working at it.

don't be sorry mate   

we do what we can here and there are a few always trying to get back what we used to have


in Canada  they are trying to get rid of the long arm registrations.   

here we have  laws that if we are threatened  in our homes  and end up shooting in defence  that will avoid us copping charges  and a old farmer  shot a bloke trying to break in  and the police did not charge him  as it was deemed to be justified

so it is not all doom and gloom 

in saying that   with the knife thing    it is a "box opener"   as you can not carry knives for defence  so I use it to "open" boxes at work   

if I was to go to a night club with it  and get searched or in one of the places with metal detectors...  I would be grasping at straws for saying i use it at work  and could get done with carrying a prohibited weapon

we do what we need to do to get by though

[ratcatcher55]

Sorry about your daughters incident. We do learn more from our mistakes.

I spend way too much time in hotels around the world so I'll let you know what I do.

1) The do not disturb flag goes right on the door the second I'm sure I'm staying in the room.  I've had "staff" just want to turn down the bed at 1:00 AM.
2) Dead bolt and chain are on when I'm in the room at all times.
3) When I'm out of the room, the TV is left on and the DO NOT DISTURB flag in the door. Let them think I'm there.
4) Tell the operator/desk clerk you will not accept visitors, or that they should call if someone if someone comes to see you. Do not give out your room number to anyone you don't trust including coworkers.
5) When overseas I have them send a picture of who ever is picking me up and addresses I where we will be going. I check routes out on Google Earth on where we will be traveling if I'm getting myself from the airport by cab.

When I'm overseas or in DC, NYC or LA I can not carry. I do check a good knife in my luggage and I always have a 6P on me.

I'm not much for lawyers but I would contact the top of the corporate ladder as I could find and let them know what happened.