Opinions on capacity vs caliber in a ccw

[shooter32]

I'd like to hear your reasoning as well.
I'm no fan of the .40, but I really don't have any facts other than it is relatively new.

+1

[ericire12]

Hell, I'd carry a shotgun but people would look at me funny...

 

I was comfortable with a .45 thirty five years ago, I'm comfortable with one today.  Looking for a pocket 9mm for hot summer days but 10 round mags here are the max....unless you're lucky enough to find a pre-ban like my daughter did in her Sig P228.

I think Rob is trying to say that at some point you have enough horsepower, dont mess up your marksmanship by going too big.

Think about it in terms of a hunting.... Why shoot a deer at 50 yards with a .338 when a 30-30 or a .243 will get the job done just fine..... likewise, why carry a .500 S&W as a CCW when a .38 special will get the job done just fine?




Exit Question: Rob, are you still all worked up about the Bren 10 like you once were?

[Timothy]

I think Rob is trying to say that at some point you have enough horsepower, dont mess up your marksmanship by going too big.

Rob is welcome to his opinion.

to qoute FQ....YMMV.

And, I've never hunted deer with anything other than a .30-30...never need anything else.

[ericire12]

Rob is welcome to his opinion.

Which one? The one about him never buying a .40 for personal defense or the one that puts you in the 5% group of elite level shooters?

[Timothy]

Which one? The one about him never buying a .40 for personal defense or the one that puts you in the 5% group of elite level shooters?

The latter.....I can shoot "minute of trashcan lid" all day long, that's all I care about.  Never saw a bad guy with a target on his chest.

Age and Wisdom........vs.  youth and education...

I'll say no more...

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[ericire12]

The latter.....I can shoot "minute of trashcan lid" all day long, that's all I care about.  Never saw a bad guy with a target on his chest.

Age and Wisdom Low speed; high drag........vs.  youth and education... High speed; low drag

I'll say no more...

Now thats funny right there 

[GUNS-R-US]

I'd like to hear your reasoning as well.
I'm no fan of the .40, but I really don't have any facts other than it is relatively new.

I wouldn't call 20 years on the market as new. IMHO it's that the improvements in ammo for the 9mm and guns for the .45acp have narrowed the gains you got with the .40S&W.

[mtpockets]

I just got rid of the second 40 S&W I've had, Sig 226.  Very nice pistol but only held 12 rounds, which should be plenty, but when you can get for instance a XD 45 that holds 13 rounds and similar in size I have to reconsider my options.  Glock 19 for instance is tiny in comparison but holds 15 rounds, there are many other options today.  To me the 40's just seem to be designed after the 9mm version of the same gun, (glock and xd).  Doesn't the XD 40 only hold 12 rounds and the 45 13.  Just my thoughts

[Overload]

Slightly tangentially, it might be the gun.  I took a pistol course where we shot every students' gun.  The idea was that all guns are more similar than you'd think.  And, the guns in the course did vary from the squeeze-cocker HK P7, to Sigs, Glocks, 1911s and more.  And yes, there were similar to shoot, and I wouldn't mind owning and shooting any one of those.  However, I bought a Beretta 92 once, and HATED it.  Like M25 mentions above, it just shot weird to me and seemed to have more recoil than all other 9mm I'd shot.  I sold it a few months later.  I saw someone post saying that the XDm has a high bore axis.  Does that, plus the lightweight frame equal higher muzzle flip?  Would that make it worse to shoot?  Is the slide on the 92 lighter than normal?

I may have to try what is mentioned: and shoot some qualifiers with a 9mm vs a 45acp.  I recently bought a .45acp that's the same model as a 9mm I've owned and enjoyed for years.  I wonder if the 9mm would outshoot, both in time and/or accuracy, the 45acp?  How many cycles would I have to shoot to get an answer that removes most randomness?

[tombogan03884]

I wouldn't call 20 years on the market as new. IMHO it's that the improvements in ammo for the 9mm and guns for the .45acp have narrowed the gains you got with the .40S&W.

20 years isn't even well tested yet Guns. 9mm and .45 ACP are both over a hundred years old, .357 magnum is 75, even the 44 Magnum is over 50