GOP leaders let demagogues set tone, lawmaker says (RINO crying)

[Hazcat]

By BEN EVANS
Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Too many Republican leaders are acquiescing to a poisonous "demagoguery" that threatens the party's long-term credibility, says a veteran GOP House member who was defeated in South Carolina's primary last month.

While not naming names, 12-year incumbent Rep. Bob Inglis suggested in interviews with The Associated Press that tea party favorites such as former vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin and right-wing talk show hosts like Glenn Beck are the culprits.

He cited a claim made famous by Palin that the Democratic health care bill would create "death panels" to decide whether elderly or sick people should get care.

"There were no death panels in the bill ... and to encourage that kind of fear is just the lowest form of political leadership. It's not leadership. It's demagoguery," said Inglis, one of three Republican incumbents who have lost their seats in Congress to primary and state party convention challengers this year.

Inglis said voters eventually will discover that you're "preying on their fears" and turn away.

"I think we have a lot of leaders that are following those (television and talk radio) personalities and not leading," he said. "What it takes to lead is to say, 'You know, that's just not right.'"

Inglis said the rhetoric also distracts from the real problems that politicians should be trying to resolve, such as budget deficits and energy security.

"It's a real concern, because I think what we're doing is dividing the country into partisan camps that really look a lot like Shia and Sunni," he said, referring to the two predominant Islamic denominations that have feuded for centuries. "It's very difficult to come together to find solutions."

Inglis' refusal to join in on the Obama-bashing of the far right played a big role in his landslide defeat on June 22. Leading up to the election, he frequently challenged voters who questioned the president's citizenship or patriotism. At one town hall meeting, he was jeered for saying that Beck, a Fox News Channel host, is a divisive fearmonger.

In his primary runoff against prosecutor Trey Gowdy, Inglis failed to break 30 percent, an improbably low result for a sitting incumbent not embroiled in scandal.

Inglis said he was shocked during the health care votes as he watched protesters jeering Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat who was beaten as a leading civil rights activist in the 1960s.

Inglis said he was too far away during the jeering incident to hear whether the protesters shouted racial epithets, as Lewis and other black lawmakers have claimed. But Inglis said the behavior was threatening and abusive.

"I caught him at the door and said, 'John, I guess you've been here before,'" Inglis said.

Inglis, 50, who calls himself a Jack Kemp disciple because he has emphasized outreach to minorities as the late Republican congressman did, thinks racism is a part of the vitriol directed at President Barack Obama.

"I love the South. I'm a Southerner. But I can feel it," he said.

Inglis was first elected in 1992 and left after six years to honor a term-limits pledge. But he won the seat again in 2004. He doesn't yet know what he'll do when he leaves Congress in January. He said it's unlikely he'll run for office again, but he didn't rule it out.

"It's hard to see how it works for me," he said. "But things change, and maybe something changes here."

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[fightingquaker13]

Let me say this. I don't know or care if racial epthets were thrown at Lewis. The man is an American hero. He put his butt on the line to make this a better a country. You might disagree with him (I do), you might work actively against him politically, but the man deserves respect. Inglis may not have been right about anything else in his life, but he was right about that. Passion and enthusiam are no excuse for a lack of good manners and decorum. If my Southern patrician side is showing, I don't care. There is no excuse for rudeness.
FQ13

[Hazcat]

Let me say this. I don't know or care if racial epthets were thrown at Lewis. The man is an American hero. He put his butt on the line to make this a better a country. You might disagree with him (I do), you might work actively against him politically, but the man deserves respect. Inglis may not have been right about anything else in his life, but he was right about that. Passion and enthusiam are no excuse for a lack of good manners and decorum. If my Southern patrician side is showing, I don't care. There is no excuse for rudeness.
FQ13

Lot's of things wrong in that statement.  First in ALL of the recordings I have heard not one racial remark was made..so he was just grandstanding!

2nd Murtha was a 'hero' too and I would spit in the mans face before I'd shake his hand!

He might deserve respect for his past action but that does not cover his but for present actions.

On top of all that it does NOT refute the fact that this is just a RINO playing the 'victim'  game and crying 'boo hoo, poor me'.

[fightingquaker13]

He might deserve respect for his past action but that does not cover his but for present actions.

On top of all that it does NOT refute the fact that this is just a RINO playing the 'victim'  game and crying 'boo hoo, poor me'.

As for the first statement, I agree. As far as the poor pitiful RINO (even though I think they have a point), I agree.
As to Murtha being a scumbag, I agree. But...... you said:

"2nd Murtha was a 'hero' too and I would spit in the mans face before I'd shake his hand!" (Haz, previous post).

Well, not shaking his hand, fair eough, the spitting, on a cold day in hell. I don't have that right. Snubbing, frigidity, a politley worded insult? Yes. Spitting? No.

Look, maybe it comes down to upbringing. I'm the child of Old Southern money (the money was tapped out when I came along, but the attitude wasn't). I got more than my fair share of it as my Great Grandparents, (my Great Grandad died in 1980 at 99, the son of a Confederate veteran, the great great grandad was a late bloomer ) were my babysitters when my mom was trying to start an antique store. Anyway, it was like growing up in a pastel toned, low rent version of a Faulkner novel. What got ingrained in me is this.

If you say something that I take objection to, I have two responses.
Response A: "Haz, you are full of shat, hang it in your ass you A-hole"!
Response B: "Sir, I believe I must have misheard you. I thought you said X. Please clarify that for me".

Response A is just fun and games. Response B is damn serious. The madder you get, the more polite you get. Its a cultural thing.
FQ13 who hopes at least the Southern folks on this board understand. 

[tombogan03884]

As for the first statement, I agree. As far as the poor pitiful RINO (even though I think they have a point), I agree.
As to Murtha being a scumbag, I agree. But...... you said:

"2nd Murtha was a 'hero' too and I would spit in the mans face before I'd shake his hand!" (Haz, previous post).

Well, not shaking his hand, fair eough, the spitting, on a cold day in hell. I don't have that right. Snubbing, frigidity, a politley worded insult? Yes. Spitting? No.
True enough, but there are many here who would have that right, were he not dead.
Look, maybe it comes down to upbringing. I'm the child of Old Southern money (the money was tapped out when I came along, but the attitude wasn't). I got more than my fair share of it as my Great Grandparents, (my Great Grandad died in 1980 at 99, the son of a Confederate veteran, the great great grandad was a late bloomer ) were my babysitters when my mom was trying to start an antique store. Anyway, it was like growing up in a pastel toned, low rent version of a Faulkner novel. What got ingrained in me is this.

If you say something that I take objection to, I have two responses.
Response A: "Haz, you are full of shat, hang it in your ass you A-hole"!
Response B: "Sir, I believe I must have misheard you. I thought you said X. Please clarify that for me".

Response A is just fun and games. Response B is damn serious. The madder you get, the more polite you get. Its a cultural thing.
FQ13 who hopes at least the Southern folks on this board understand.  

As for the topic,  WAAH.

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[ericire12]

All that article shows is that even in defeat Inglis does not get it! All he is doing is reinforcing to the people that voted him out of office that they were right. Thanks, Bob, but your services are no longer needed.




*BTW, I have no problem with spitting in the face of a man who is pissing on the constitution, systematicly dismantling our country, or facilitating either of the first two. IMO it seams like a rather polite response.

[PegLeg45]

If you say something that I take objection to, I have two responses.
Response A: "Haz, you are full of shat, hang it in your ass you A-hole"!
Response B: "Sir, I believe I must have misheard you. I thought you said X. Please clarify that for me".

Response A is just fun and games. Response B is damn serious. The madder you get, the more polite you get. Its a cultural thing.
FQ13 who hopes at least the Southern folks on this board understand. 

"Suh, you ain't evah had a re-sponse that shawt in yo' en-ty-uh life."

[fightingquaker13]

"Suh, you ain't evah had a re-sponse that shawt in yo' en-ty-uh life."

I'll be your Huckleberry , but don't tell me it ain't true Georgia boy. Nothin' in this world is more dangerous than a Southerner who is painstakingly polite after you just insulted his girl.
FQ13

[PegLeg45]

I'll be your Huckleberry , but don't tell me it ain't true Georgia boy. Nothin' in this world is more dangerous than a Southerner who is painstakingly polite after you just insulted his girl.
FQ13

Well, just because you have to make a feller swallow his own teeth is no cause for rude behavior.

[Hazcat]

As for the first statement, I agree. As far as the poor pitiful RINO (even though I think they have a point), I agree.
As to Murtha being a scumbag, I agree. But...... you said:

"2nd Murtha was a 'hero' too and I would spit in the mans face before I'd shake his hand!" (Haz, previous post).

Well, not shaking his hand, fair eough, the spitting, on a cold day in hell. I don't have that right. Snubbing, frigidity, a politley worded insult? Yes. Spitting? No.

Look, maybe it comes down to upbringing. I'm the child of Old Southern money (the money was tapped out when I came along, but the attitude wasn't). I got more than my fair share of it as my Great Grandparents, (my Great Grandad died in 1980 at 99, the son of a Confederate veteran, the great great grandad was a late bloomer ) were my babysitters when my mom was trying to start an antique store. Anyway, it was like growing up in a pastel toned, low rent version of a Faulkner novel. What got ingrained in me is this.

If you say something that I take objection to, I have two responses.
Response A: "Haz, you are full of shat, hang it in your ass you A-hole"!
Response B: "Sir, I believe I must have misheard you. I thought you said X. Please clarify that for me".

Response A is just fun and games. Response B is damn serious. The madder you get, the more polite you get. Its a cultural thing.
FQ13 who hopes at least the Southern folks on this board understand.  

(maybe) Right on the first.  Wrong on the second.