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MikeBjerum

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Here's a questions for everyone to consider:
« on: July 16, 2010, 08:25:35 PM »
Take the basic actions, change the tools and the locations, and think of how you could find yourself under a similar attack.

I have developed the bad habit of stopping on Whale Wars when I channel surf.  I don't want to get into the politics of the Japanese for "whaling," or the  general attitudes of these "hippies." (my 60's redneck showing)

The whale protectors go after the whaling ships with prop foulers made of rope and cable, the throw bottles of acid on the decks of the whaling ships, and now they have taken a potato gun to launch acid on the decks.  They use their boats to block and play chicken with the whaling ships.  They also fly black flags with a skull with a cross below made of a shepherd's crook and trident ... sure sounds like a pirate flag to me.

Now a Japanese ship as run into one of the "pirates."  Granted the little boat was sitting still when the harpoon ship hit it and took the bow off, but given the attacks by the pirates ...

How do you respond when someone disagrees with you and resorts to violence in constant confrontations that they initiate?  Grandma's old warnings about avoiding fights and just turning the other cheek or walking away only go so far when the gnat keeps chasing you down.

As I type and my blood continues to boil one of the pirate ships is informing the harpoon ship that "International Law" demands they respond to the mayday.  However, when the Japanese ship starts to lower a rescue boat the pirates warn that they will defend their friends.

My main question prompted by this irritating show is How do we respond when idiots treat us this way?
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Re: Here's a questions for everyone to consider:
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2010, 08:53:05 PM »
Grandpa use to say "I'm running out of places to hide the bodies". Might be your answer.
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Re: Here's a questions for everyone to consider:
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2010, 09:44:10 PM »
Take the basic actions, change the tools and the locations, and think of how you could find yourself under a similar attack.

I have developed the bad habit of stopping on Whale Wars when I channel surf.  I don't want to get into the politics of the Japanese for "whaling," or the  general attitudes of these "hippies." (my 60's redneck showing)

The whale protectors go after the whaling ships with prop foulers made of rope and cable, the throw bottles of acid on the decks of the whaling ships, and now they have taken a potato gun to launch acid on the decks.  They use their boats to block and play chicken with the whaling ships.  They also fly black flags with a skull with a cross below made of a shepherd's crook and trident ... sure sounds like a pirate flag to me.

Now a Japanese ship as run into one of the "pirates."  Granted the little boat was sitting still when the harpoon ship hit it and took the bow off, but given the attacks by the pirates ...

How do you respond when someone disagrees with you and resorts to violence in constant confrontations that they initiate?  Grandma's old warnings about avoiding fights and just turning the other cheek or walking away only go so far when the gnat keeps chasing you down.

As I type and my blood continues to boil one of the pirate ships is informing the harpoon ship that "International Law" demands they respond to the mayday.  However, when the Japanese ship starts to lower a rescue boat the pirates warn that they will defend their friends.

My main question prompted by this irritating show is How do we respond when idiots treat us this way?

Ever heard of the Rainbow Warrior? That would be my suggestion to the Japanese govt.

These retards and by that I mean The Sea Shepherd and her criminal crew and friends, come down to tassie every year, they have ties to known terrorists have been responsible for sinking ships themselves yet none of this is every highlighted by the liberal greeny doo gooder media. These assclowns are not even supported by greenpeace, they have disowned them.
They bitch and whine when something happens to them, well boo $##&# hoo, they are the ones down there creating the dangerous situations, shining green lasers into the eyes of the sailors, throwing butric acid bombs on the deck of the whaling boats creating bloody dangerously slick conditions. But thats all ok if some one dies (as long as its not one of them) because its all in the name of the whales........give me a break. Its all in the name of conning more money out of rich benefactors and sapping money out of the dickheads that buy in to Paul Watsons BS!

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Re: Here's a questions for everyone to consider:
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2010, 09:56:11 PM »
I too watch Whale Wars, mostly for the seamanship and latest "gadgets" to interrupt the Japanese whalers.

In the International Waters where they harass and stalk the whaling fleet, they are, according to maritime law, no better than the Somali Pirates.

The Japanese have shown more than due patience, and the previous post when the "bat boat" got its nose cut off, goes to the direct terrorism at sea that they are coordinating, and they are lucky holes aren't punched into the hull via rifle rounds.

The Ady Gil (bat boat) was twice as fast and agile than the whaler patrol boat, yet, played chicken and lost.

The Eskimos of Alaska, are also allowed under Federal Treaty, to hunt and harvest seals, including those cute furry white ones, and once a year they follow the limit laws, and go home.

I may not agree with modern day whaling, but the Japanese are operating within the International laws and treaties, and have been more than tolerant to these "black" ships.

If it were my ship? A Barrett .50 would be punching holes from stem to stern below the water line, and I would even issue a Mayday on their behalf, provide a lifeboat if needed, and give their sorry ass GPS coordinates to the Coast Guard and let them sing some song like the tree hugger video posted some time back.

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Re: Here's a questions for everyone to consider:
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2010, 11:33:23 PM »
Take the basic actions, change the tools and the locations, and think of how you could find yourself under a similar attack.

I have developed the bad habit of stopping on Whale Wars when I channel surf.  I don't want to get into the politics of the Japanese for "whaling," or the  general attitudes of these "hippies." (my 60's redneck showing)

The whale protectors go after the whaling ships with prop foulers made of rope and cable, the throw bottles of acid on the decks of the whaling ships, and now they have taken a potato gun to launch acid on the decks.  They use their boats to block and play chicken with the whaling ships.  They also fly black flags with a skull with a cross below made of a shepherd's crook and trident ... sure sounds like a pirate flag to me.

Now a Japanese ship as run into one of the "pirates."  Granted the little boat was sitting still when the harpoon ship hit it and took the bow off, but given the attacks by the pirates ...

How do you respond when someone disagrees with you and resorts to violence in constant confrontations that they initiate?  Grandma's old warnings about avoiding fights and just turning the other cheek or walking away only go so far when the gnat keeps chasing you down.

As I type and my blood continues to boil one of the pirate ships is informing the harpoon ship that "International Law" demands they respond to the mayday.  However, when the Japanese ship starts to lower a rescue boat the pirates warn that they will defend their friends.

My main question prompted by this irritating show is How do we respond when idiots treat us this way?


Phil and TW , you have missed the point of M58's post.
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Re: Here's a questions for everyone to consider:
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Re: Here's a questions for everyone to consider:
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2010, 05:14:06 AM »

Phil and TW , you have missed the point of M58's post.
My thinking runs with Bulldog. 60 ft of water hides a multitude of sins.
( Gee, looks like he tried to steal more chain than he could swim with.  )

I was going to follow up with my concrete galoshes reference. ::)
Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: Here's a questions for everyone to consider:
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2010, 06:39:39 AM »

Phil and TW , you have missed the point of M58's post.
My thinking runs with Bulldog. 60 ft of water hides a multitude of sins.
( Gee, looks like he tried to steal more chain than he could swim with.  )


Probably but then I dont get your name wrong Tom  ;)
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Re: Here's a questions for everyone to consider:
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2010, 07:02:45 AM »
Response to these wankers is difficult, if for no other reason than the fact that they are looking for you to respond - that is their whole purpose. And hopefully the more you react the better for them.

When the Addy Gil was sunk, who was doing the filming? The Japanese were, they have found they need to have cameras running all the time as well so they can get their side of the story. But the whole thing was being professionally filmed for distribution to the mass media by Watson's people. The first to market was Watson's video - on purpose. They controlled the story at first, and that is part of how they operate.

Given the amount of time it took for the international Navies to react to real, aggressive, murdering pirates off Somalia - and have yet to confront off SE Asia, I doubt seriously that any gummint will do squat about Watson and his crew. So it's up to the Japanese. And the Rainbow Challenger idea is not that bad an idea. Or a turncoat crew member scuttling the boat under Watson would be enjoyable as well. I would even send lifeboats - eventually.
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Re: Here's a questions for everyone to consider:
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2010, 07:36:09 AM »
Hey, I like critters as much as the next guy.....I like the petting kind and the eating kind!   ;D

When a man, woman or hermaphrodite puts another human life at risk for the sake of a critter, it's a crime against humanity and should be handled accordingly.

Deep Six the dipshit!  He's putting his own crew, (not experienced sailors) at risk every time he goes to sea and the producers of the show should be ashamed of themselves.

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Re: Here's a questions for everyone to consider:
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2010, 11:32:31 AM »

Probably but then I dont get your name wrong Tom  ;)

I didn't get it wrong.
Phil is just so much easier to spell .  ;D

 

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