Not cheap, but reasonable used if you find a high power shooter looking to move up, I have a Kowa Tsn9 60mm, with a 25 power long eye relief eye piece, you can see .30 caliber bullet holes in black targets at 200 meters, and you don't have to crowd your eye up against the eyepiece and move the scope, the resolution is incredible. I got mine for about 400 bucks 20 yrs ago, still have it, wince once, own it forever.