Any HK P7 fans here?

[flyandscuba]

Yes, I am one I suppose:



Although now officially discontinued by HK -- by far, I find them to be the most accurate belt carry CCWs that I own.  Out of all of them though, I still choose the P7 PSP more times than not over the M8, M13 -- or M10.  Though some find the manual of arms too far a departure from other pistols, I find it natural, comfortable -- and certainly safe.

Cheers!

[Shawn Knight]

One of the guys that shoots with us in IDPA is an HK Collector. He has a similar collection. I am surprised I don't see one of them chromed. Very nice collection. I like the M10 portion too.

[flyandscuba]

I am surprised I don't see one of them chromed.

Nah, I'm a firm believer that P7s are best left black -- as originally intended.

Though I rarely carry the M10 -- it is a sweet shooter.  I've used it in a couple of Randy Cain's handgun courses with excellent results.

[Shawn Knight]

Very cool! i will have to find one of these some day. I had the chance to gt one about 6 years ago for 650$. it was chromed though. I too believed it was best to have it in Black at the time. Oh well

[Slamfire]

Bought my first one in 1984 and it still remains my favorite. I found that I was just as fast and accurate with it as with a highly modified racegun. Sorry to hear that is now discontinued.

The Wilson Combat ADP borrows many features of the P7, but I haven't seen one yet.

[Sponsor]

[Shawn Knight]

The Wilson Combat ADP borrows many features of the P7, but I haven't seen one yet.

The newest American Handgunner had an article on the APD. 100 rounds before the first gas system related stoppage. A thorough cleaning and 50 rounds later there was another stoppage due to the gas system being clogged. Might have been ammo related, but it does remind me of the stories the original Heritage Stealth had. Also I think that putting the Wilson name on the Stealth and then charging twice what NIB Stealths are going for is pretty strange.

[Michael Bane]

Good grief! Bruce Gray would have a stroke!

Back int he early 1980s, when Bruce was the entire H-K R&D department, he was always cooking up P-7s in "Major 9," ie, 9mm jacked up to make the IPSC major caliber power factor. I'd see him and he'd say, "Wanna shot it?" My response was that I had grown accustomed to my hands, and having blow up two guns myself (a 1911 .38 Super and a High-Power in Major 9), I'd gotten spooky. He always looked so hurt, and pointed out to me that P-7s, as a rule, didn't blow up...unlike the French MAB he'd launched into low earth orbit.

Good lord, we were stupid back then!

Michael B

[Cussingboy]

I just got mine like 2 weeks ago and love it. Super safe.

[Tin Can Alley]

i always liked the P7 for carry. it was good enough for the german police right ?

a little info Cabela's has a bunch for sale ! asking price 760.ish i believe

no idea why H&K discontinued it, possibly due to the retail price 

[Trevor]

no idea why H&K discontinued it, possibly due to the retail price 

Yes, its production costs finally priced it out of the market.

I will dissent: I bought one several years ago and shot it extensively for two years.  It never clicked with me.  The way it heats up is annoying, the finish is weak, the grip screws need a lot of lock tite to stay in place, and the gas porting fouls the gun quickly.  It is difficult to clean or keep clean, although I have read HK designed it to run dirty.  Yet, the idea of a permanently dirty pistol offends my neatnik sensibilities.  Speaking of clicking, the sound it makes when gripping the squeeze-cocker is irritating as well.  I found it as accurate and reliable as any Euro-style 9x19 pistol.  It is certainly not better.  As for parts, not always available, and this situation will not improve now that the pistol is out of production.  If you must have one, buy two and use one for parts.  The current used German police ones floating around are the last of the good times for the P7.

If one is a theme-oriented collector, consider picking up one of each: the P5, P6, and P7.  Surplus firearms of this type are currently available.  All served the German police well for 30 years.  These pistols were developed in the 70s after the Munich Massacre when the German Authorities decided to pack away the .32 Autos and get some better guns.  The requirements they published were for a 9mm pistol that would be ready to fire without disengaging a safety.  Each design meets this requirement in its own way.  This development was the beginning the modern 9mm pistol, which I think is the finest handgun one can buy (although now in high capacity format).  While the P5, P6, and P7 are now outdated, they mark a significant turn in the development of small arms.