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Re: Sen. Harry Reid To Missouri Voters: You Lack Understanding On Healthcare
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2010, 02:48:12 PM »
An interesting point was raised last night on one of the Talk Shows. (<---Can't remember which one so I won't try and quote it. I believe it was the Factor)
But the gist of it is that if the Republicans sweep the Mid-Term elections in November and manage to take back even a simple majority of Congress  it sets the Dems up for a better chance at re-electing their Messiah in 2012.  

Should the Republicans take back the House and or Senate...they will be held responsible for every vote cast between the time they take office and the day we cast our ballots.
The Dems will either once again assume the Victum role and blame the Conservatives for the failures of the Economy.    Or attempt to take credit when the economy begins to turn around under the control of the Reblicans
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There will be an awful lot of the Old Washington Two Step going on over the next couple of Years regardless and I think it prudent that we all remain vigilant and not allow ourselves to become complacient no matter what the results are.

Look, I'm going to say this, and I hope folks will listen. Folks will accuse me of being a "Libtard, GOP hating, Bush basher", the latter is true BTW ;). But here's the thing, the dems (in your very possible scenario) will just be taking a page out of the GOP playbook. They have become the Party of Victimhood, damned by the "elites" and the MSM. Was W ever President? I seem to remember that even AFTER his re-election, the GOP blamed Clinton for the economic downturn and 911 and, and, and.... "Recessions take a while to develop". Yet now they're blaming BO after 18 months in office (hell, they were blaming him after 18 days). Funny how things change. Likewise, their strategy has been to be the party of No. The Dems want it? No.  OK. Well, whats your plan? Crickets. There seems to be a mindset in the GOP that the worse things get for the country, the better things get for them since folks will vote for "change" yet again. Hey, it worked for BO didn't it?

It seems to me that the GOP needs to do some serious soul searching. They need to do two things.

1) Remember that they are a large part of the problem. They had both houses from 1994-2006. They still have the Court. They had the White House for eight of those years. They weren't just bystanders, so lets please drop the victim crap and the finger pointing. If you couldn't get it done then, why should I trust you now? Please, look in a mirror before opening your mouth.

2) Tell us what you are for! I know what you're against. Hell, I'm against most of it too. Only I was also against it when you guys were in charge. What's changed? How have YOU changed? Tell me what you are FOR. No plattitudes, no flag waving Bible thumping BS. Spare me the rhetoric. GIVE ME A FREAKING PLAN! If they do that, they will win. If the best they can do is point fingers and call names? Well, they still might win, but the Dems will do it right back two years later and we, the American people will lose, again. :'(
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Re: Sen. Harry Reid To Missouri Voters: You Lack Understanding On Healthcare
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2010, 03:52:12 PM »
Look, I'm going to say this, and I hope folks will listen. Folks will accuse me of being a "Libtard, GOP hating, Bush basher", the latter is true BTW ;). But here's the thing, the dems (in your very possible scenario) will just be taking a page out of the GOP playbook. They have become the Party of Victimhood, damned by the "elites" and the MSM. Was W ever President? I seem to remember that even AFTER his re-election, the GOP blamed Clinton for the economic downturn and 911Because Clinton was offered Bin Laden on a silver platter TWICE, and refused. and, and, and.... "Recessions take a while to develop". Yet now they're blaming BO after 18 months in office He voted on the budgets as a senator. Remember that all the president can do is sign a budget, they originate in the house.(hell, they were blaming him after 18 days). Funny how things change. Likewise, their strategy has been to be the party of No. The Dems want it? No.  OK. Well, whats your plan? Crickets. There seems to be a mindset in the GOP that the worse things get for the country, the better things get for them since folks will vote for "change" yet again. Hey, it worked for BO didn't it?

It seems to me that the GOP needs to do some serious soul searching. They need to do two things. Kick out the RINO's and start repealing wealth redistributive legislation. FOR STARTERS

1) Remember that they are a large part of the problem. They had both houses from 1994-2006. They still have the Court. They had the White House for eight of those years. They weren't just bystanders, so lets please drop the victim crap and the finger pointing. If you couldn't get it done then, Apparently you are forgetting the Dems screaming for almost 8 years about minority rights, and filibustering every piece of legislation that came up. why should I trust you now? Please, look in a mirror before opening your mouth.
Said the pot to the kettle.
2) Tell us what you are for! Uh, that would be lower taxes, limited government, secure borders, less welfare, and hey, while we're at it how about we just win that war on terror too. I know what you're against. Hell, I'm against most of it too. Only I was also against it when you guys were in charge. What's changed? How have YOU changed? Tell me what you are FOR. No plattitudes, no flag waving Bible thumping BS. Spare me the rhetoric. GIVE ME A FREAKING PLAN! If they do that, they will win. The problem conservatives have with winning is that they are not offering free ice cream. Only a level playing field. Under those circumstances people are allowed to fail. That doesn't sit well with half the country.If the best they can do is point fingers and call names? Well, they still might win, but the Dems will do it right back two years later and we, the American people will lose, again. :'(
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Re: Sen. Harry Reid To Missouri Voters: You Lack Understanding On Healthcare
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2010, 04:58:25 PM »


I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Re: Sen. Harry Reid To Missouri Voters: You Lack Understanding On Healthcare
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2010, 07:19:54 PM »

Green text is mine.

Sounds like YOU have a a plan.  Think the Republicans will listen to you?

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Re: Sen. Harry Reid To Missouri Voters: You Lack Understanding On Healthcare
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2010, 07:54:02 PM »
Look, I'm going to say this, and I hope folks will listen. Folks will accuse me of being know I am a "Libtard, GOP hating, Bush basher", the latter is true BTW ;). But here's the thing, the dems (in your very possible scenario) will just be taking a page out of the GOP playbook. They have become the Party of Victimhood, damned by the "elites" and the MSM. Was W ever President? I seem to remember that even AFTER his re-election, the GOP blamed Clinton for the economic downturn and 911 and, and, and.... "Recessions take a while to develop". Yet now they're blaming BO after 18 months in office (hell, they were blaming him after 18 days). Funny how things change. Likewise, their strategy has been to be the party of No. The Dems want it? No.  OK. Well, whats your plan? Crickets. There seems to be a mindset in the GOP that the worse things get for the country, the better things get for them since folks will vote for "change" yet again. Hey, it worked for BO didn't it?

It seems to me that the GOP needs to do some serious soul searching. They need to do two things.

1) Remember that they are a large part of the problem. They had both houses from 1994-2006. They still have the Court. They had the White House for eight of those years. They weren't just bystanders, so lets please drop the victim crap and the finger pointing. If you couldn't get it done then, why should I trust you now? Please, look in a mirror before opening your mouth.

2) Tell us what you are for! I know what you're against. Hell, I'm against most of it too. Only I was also against it when you guys were in charge. What's changed? How have YOU changed? Tell me what you are FOR. No plattitudes, no flag waving Bible thumping BS. Spare me the rhetoric. GIVE ME A FREAKING PLAN! If they do that, they will win. If the best they can do is point fingers and call names? Well, they still might win, but the Dems will do it right back two years later and we, the American people will lose, again. :'(
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This post is one of the key reasons your opinions are so often ridiculed - and with good measure. The game has changed, and just as the 2-partiers want you to be, you are still hung up on Dems vs. Reps. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

One last time - Both parties have sold out the American people. Both of them. Both are worthless, both are dangerous. And don't whine at me about the Libertarians. Most people - those with a brain - are well aware of the results of Clinton appearing weak and indecisive for 8 years, culminating in the 9/11 attacks. The Libertarians would have us eschew all foreign "entanglements", when - outside of DC - the risk is greatest from outside this country.

The American public has been dumbed down and sotted with bread and circuses of the 21st Century. They have elected the very purveyors of our demise - almost a mercy killing at this point with all of the damage that has been done over the past 100 years - by Republicans and Democrats alike.

I do not want it, but I fear the hard war is the most likely outcome, unless the country just rolls over and gives up. And there is always willful disobedience, barter, trading, mutual aid groups, ignoring onerous laws and the like. The .gov will make damn sure object lessons are taught - very public arrest, trial and incarceration, but it should only strengthen our resolve to strangle this behemoth gummint that is being topped off on our watch.
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Re: Sen. Harry Reid To Missouri Voters: You Lack Understanding On Healthcare
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2010, 12:27:12 AM »
I think people should tell the government NO! Stand up to them more often and don't back down.

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Re: Sen. Harry Reid To Missouri Voters: You Lack Understanding On Healthcare
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2010, 01:36:51 AM »
FQ, I have been giving you plans, and you mostly don't like them.

You are as usual wrong, it's late, so I will limit myself to pointing out that your initial assumption is flawed, the Dems have been playing victim ever since they discovered that if they promised the blacks welfare , the blacks would ignore the fact that the KKK was a strictly Dem Organization, they did not allow Republicans to join .

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Re: Sen. Harry Reid To Missouri Voters: You Lack Understanding On Healthcare
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2010, 07:48:15 AM »
the Dems have been playing victim ever since they discovered that if they promised the blacks welfare , the blacks would ignore the fact that the KKK was a strictly Dem Organization, they did not allow Republicans to join .

This is a point that I have been pushing for many years.....Leftist don't like it either because they simply can't argue against it.
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Re: Sen. Harry Reid To Missouri Voters: You Lack Understanding On Healthcare
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2010, 08:30:31 AM »
Sounds like YOU have a a plan.  Think the Republicans will listen to you?



Most likely they would probably crucify me the way the Dems did to Joe the Plumber. One thing politicians (on either side) don't like is their constituents telling them to do the job that they were elected for. Not to mention actually keeping the promises that they made while campaigning.
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Re: Sen. Harry Reid To Missouri Voters: You Lack Understanding On Healthcare
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2010, 11:02:08 PM »
I have more time now and will agree with Path .
Dem, Rep. Don't matter, they all represent their campaign funds.
This is why I advocate hanging them instead of  voting them out, the vote doesn't need to be rigged if you don't have a real candidate to choose.
That was the real lesson of the last election, the only ones who "supported" McCain  were one issue Veterans, Everyone else hated him for Campaign Finance and his amnesty plan. the only reason they voted for him was because he was not  Obama.
There is much to the "Conspiracy Theories" about George Soros,  who's minion Rebbecca Peters just lost her job at the UN.

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