Uncle Ted fined for baiting deer

[TAB]

That's my point. Local conditions should dictate the rules. personally? I kill most deer within bow hunting ranges even though I use a rifle because the stalk is the thrill for me. I don't like tree stands and won't use bait and I'd rather kill a doe or a spike as I want meat in the freezer rather than anlers on the wall. None of that makes me better or worse  than someone who hunts differently. Use a bow? Hunt only trophy bucks? Shoot them at 400 yards over a feeder from a stand, or from ten yards with a long bow in the woods? Not my problem. I'm happy to let the Fish and Game folks tell me how many I can kill, what sort and when. Beyond that? Not my business.FQ13 who will not brag about or apologize for his doe shot at thirty yards with a 300 yard rifle.

I disagree with it being known of your biz,  lots of very unsafe hunters out there.  There needs to be some type of safety aspect built in.

[Hazcat]

Thing is he SHOULD know the local laws!  Good lord he has a production crew to look it up!  REALLY DUMB MISTAKE!  Looks bad for all of us!

[crusader rabbit]

Thing is he SHOULD know the local laws!  Good lord he has a production crew to look it up!  REALLY DUMB MISTAKE!  Looks bad for all of us!

And that's really the point here.  If I had a crack research team planning my days for me I'd probably make very few mistakes.  As it is, I don't have the team, and I do make some mistakes (a fact that Bunny will point out to anyone who will listen).  But Uncle Ted DOES have the team and SHOULD know better.  Makes no difference that he claims not to be a sport hunter and only hunts to put food on the table--the law trumps the intent.  The dude had to be embarrassed, though.

Offered for thought by Crusader (who is very grateful that wild pigs LOVE corn).

[TAB]

ted always talks about back straps, what about the rest of the animal?  I would be willing to bet that he sees very little of the rest of the deer come accross his plate. 

Does anyone know how many deer he takes a year?  Its got to be atleast in the 20s.  You can feed alot of people for a very long time off 20 deer, not so much if you only take the back straps.

[bulldog75]

Every deer that I shoot all of it goes across my table. I give the brains and liver to a neighbor. Those are the two things I will not eat and he is too old to hunt. Baiting if it is legal and you can afford it so be it, not my cup of tea.

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[MikeBjerum]

ted always talks about back straps, what about the rest of the animal?  I would be willing to bet that he sees very little of the rest of the deer come accross his plate. 

Does anyone know how many deer he takes a year?  Its got to be atleast in the 20s.  You can feed alot of people for a very long time off 20 deer, not so much if you only take the back straps.

He doesn't only eat the backstraps.  He processes the entire animal, feeds his family, gives to crew and friends.  Ted doesn't waste the meat!

Not excusing the infraction, but if you watch the news you will find there are two types of people filming hunting and shooting shows:  There of those that have made mistakes or pushed the limits and been caught; and there are those that will.  When you travel the nation doing this mistakes will happen.  All it takes is one moment of brain fade to see deer bait in the store and use it rather than think "this state doesn't allow this," and you find yourself in court.  The failure to tag immediately is a common infraction if you watch these shows.  Through the production process they need to make the decision "am I going to tag according to law, or am I going to get the recovery and story on tape while the emotions are high?"  Good tv means that law is the most broken in the books.  If you doubt that, just watch the fishing shows for how "catch and release" fish are handled.

[TAB]

He doesn't only eat the backstraps.  He processes the entire animal, feeds his family, gives to crew and friends.  Ted doesn't waste the meat!

Not excusing the infraction, but if you watch the news you will find there are two types of people filming hunting and shooting shows:  There of those that have made mistakes or pushed the limits and been caught; and there are those that will.  When you travel the nation doing this mistakes will happen.  All it takes is one moment of brain fade to see deer bait in the store and use it rather than think "this state doesn't allow this," and you find yourself in court.  The failure to tag immediately is a common infraction if you watch these shows.  Through the production process they need to make the decision "am I going to tag according to law, or am I going to get the recovery and story on tape while the emotions are high?"  Good tv means that law is the most broken in the books.  If you doubt that, just watch the fishing shows for how "catch and release" fish are handled.

still no excuse, you get a copy of the regs when you draw your deer tag.  Who ever signed for that tag( which would be ted)  it  making the statement that you know the regs and will fallow them.  clearly he didn't do either.  Oh yeah CA has a draw system, you can't just go down to the local DFG office and get tags, you must sign all that stuff before the draw takes place.   he had to been able to find a hour some time and read the 25 pages or so in the weeks before he was on the hunt.

you don't have to break the law to have good TV.

[ratcatcher55]

From a quality game management standpoint, shooting spikes makes sense. A year and half deer with good feed and genetics should be a forkhorn (2 points a side).  If your a antler nut, getting that gene from the pool makes sense.

From an eating point of view, spike bucks are prime eating. I  would rather shoot does for food and management but to each his own.

Growning up in PA hunting over bait was a big NO-NO. In KY is is pretty standard. Using dogs to run deer was a big fine in PA  but when I had a chance to hunt that way in VA is was a real hoot and the deer still won the day. I'm 0-3 in VA but still love to hear the dogs work.

Uncle Ted should have known better. He cowboyed up and paid the fine.  SCI will probably revoke his membersip for a year.  What the NRA will do is unknown.