An interview with one of Quaker's heroes!

[fullautovalmet76]

An interview with Margaret Sanger in 1957:

http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/multimedia/video/2008/wallace/sanger_margaret.html

She's seems to be so warm, so kind, so humanitarian in the interview...... 

[alfsauve]

Haven't gotten to the whole interview but at the top she talks about how she, ..."went among the people"  [emphasis mine]   I read that as "the little people".

[tombogan03884]

Can't blame FQ there, I was the one who mentioned her, and her theories on Eugenics 
Like George Bernard Shaw, and Hitler, She was a fatalist, assuming everyone's fate was more or less set, ( at least as a statistical probability ) by a persons "birth environment", if your Father was a farmer, chances were you, and your kids would be as well.
It fails to allow for personal initiative and ability.

[Pathfinder]

She was also a socialist, and I sensed that every word she was saying was some form of a lie. Thanks alf, I habn't quite gotten that far in the interview, couldn't stand her arrogance and holier than thou attitude.

Reminds me of the time I met Margaret Mead, the famous anthropologist. She was famous mostly for being a woman in that field at that time (teens and 1920's) and was probably Franz Boaz' chippie at some point. When I met her, she was an arrogant, garrulous old woman living on her reputation. All of the other grad students worshiped the ground she walked on, though. I sat less than 5' away from her in the lounge and didn't see anything of interest - intellectually or otherwise.

[fullautovalmet76]

Can't blame FQ there, I was the one who mentioned her, and her theories on Eugenics 
Like George Bernard Shaw, and Hitler, She was a fatalist, assuming everyone's fate was more or less set, ( at least as a statistical probability ) by a persons "birth environment", if your Father was a farmer, chances were you, and your kids would be as well.
It fails to allow for personal initiative and ability.

Tom,
I was introduced to the ideas of Margaret Sanger in the early 80's via a documentary called "Silent Scream." That documentary made a huge impact upon me.....

In addition to what Path wrote about her, she was a very strident eugenicist- as in certain racial populations must be reduced or eliminated because they are breeding out of proportion to the other populations and they are inherently inferior.

She is also hailed as one of the founders of the pseudo-feminist (my term) movement. The very freedom she claimed to offer women with her philosophy actually enslaved them to a system that is very dark. Quaker in his naivete just doesn't see it or refuses to acknowledge it.

I'm going to read her autobiography, as I understand she "tells it like it is" in that one. I recommend you read Brave New World, which was written by Aldous Huxley. I think you will find it fascinating.....

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[fightingquaker13]

She was also a socialist, and I sensed that every word she was saying was some form of a lie. Thanks alf, I habn't quite gotten that far in the interview, couldn't stand her arrogance and holier than thou attitude.

Reminds me of the time I met Margaret Mead, the famous anthropologist. She was famous mostly for being a woman in that field at that time (teens and 1920's) and was probably Franz Boaz' chippie at some point. When I met her, she was an arrogant, garrulous old woman living on her reputation. All of the other grad students worshiped the ground she walked on, though. I sat less than 5' away from her in the lounge and didn't see anything of interest - intellectually or otherwise.

Mead also, it turns out, faked a lot of her data on the "free love' stuff in Pacific Islanders.. She had an agenda to foster and didn't really care that she was twisng the facts. Some it was honest sloppy (seeing what she wanted to see), but some was just BS.
FQ13
PS as to Sanger, I think we're better off with easy acess to birth control (I'd think the same if I were pro-life). She did a lot, but was not someone I'd want to hang out with, putting it mildly. She was just a straight up eungenicist.

[tombogan03884]

Tom,
I was introduced to the ideas of Margaret Sanger in the early 80's via a documentary called "Silent Scream." That documentary made a huge impact upon me.....

In addition to what Path wrote about her, she was a very strident eugenicist- as in certain racial populations must be reduced or eliminated because they are breeding out of proportion to the other populations and they are inherently inferior.

She is also hailed as one of the founders of the pseudo-feminist (my term) movement. The very freedom she claimed to offer women with her philosophy actually enslaved them to a system that is very dark. Quaker in his naivete just doesn't see it or refuses to acknowledge it.

I'm going to read her autobiography, as I understand she "tells it like it is" in that one. I recommend you read Brave New World, which was written by Aldous Huxley. I think you will find it fascinating.....

She was the Founder of "Planned Parent hood" and she intentionally placed the majority of the clinics in neighborhoods.

Looking at history, then looking around today makes it hard to argue with Eugenics.

[m25operator]

The Islamist and Hispanics will out produce us and take over by atrition  in reverse. No jokes here  folks. We will have probably passed by then, but our children will have not, teach them well.

[tombogan03884]

Based on birth rates , Europe is already gone.

[fullautovalmet76]

Looking at history, then looking around today makes it hard to argue with Eugenics.

Tom, you really don't mean that or you really don't understand the implications- think NAZIs, concentration camps, forced euthanization of mentally disabled, etc......