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please help to identify
« on: August 27, 2010, 09:58:55 AM »
I am in need of some help.  I am trying to help my grandfather identify a pistol that he brought back from WWII.  It was given to him by a Japanese officer (either LT or Col he is not sure which) right before the officer went into a prison camp.  The pics are to large to post here so I posted them on photo bucket and the link is:

http://s819.photobucket.com/albums/zz113/cdcasey01/

I do not have any pics of the bottom but the mag release is located right behind the mag on the bottom of the grip.  Any and all help is greatly appreciated as this would be a great time for me and my grandfather to discuss.  Thanks in advance!

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Re: please help to identify
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2010, 10:33:38 AM »
WOW, interesting!  Looks vaguely similer to a P-38 Walther but I could not find anything like it on a search of Jap WWII guns or even just WWII guns.

This will be fun to find out!
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Re: please help to identify
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2010, 10:55:08 AM »
I just spent 30 minutes searching and can not find any references for this pistol .
One note I did run across was that Jap pistols of this era or earlier were crap, they were considered "Crude", even when compared to the Tokarev.


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Re: please help to identify
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2010, 11:07:44 AM »
I just spent 30 minutes searching and can not find any references for this pistol .
One note I did run across was that Jap pistols of this era or earlier were crap, they were considered "Crude", even when compared to the Tokarev.



Is a 1911 crude?  The Romanian TOK internals are a copy.  Tear down and function all the same as a 1911.
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Re: please help to identify
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2010, 11:12:54 AM »
Is a 1911 crude?  The Romanian TOK internals are a copy.  Tear down and function all the same as a 1911.

Apples and oranges, The Yugo, and the Fiat are basicly the same too.
But the Yugo sucked so bad the country fell apart.
It has nothing to do with where they stole the design, the workmanship was crap. Good enough to work, but "Craftsmanship is not a word you will think of when looking one over.

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Re: please help to identify
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Re: please help to identify
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2010, 04:21:24 PM »
It looks like it was made by hand.
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Re: please help to identify
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2010, 04:28:09 PM »
It looks like it was made by hand.

most of them were.


hmmm, let me go did out the old guns of ww2 book.



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Re: please help to identify
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2010, 06:27:11 PM »
BTTTAH girls . . . .  ;)

Looks like a Nambu, and from the "quality" (lack thereof) I would say this was late war manufacture to boot. The stamping on the left is barely above hand-scribing, the grips are perfunctory, trigger is rudimentary, metal hardly looks finished/polished even before time and service worked on it. Probably '44 or '45 manufacture. Earlier ones were much more polished and finished looking.
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Re: please help to identify
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2010, 06:35:54 PM »
it looks nothing like a nambu( think ruger mk1 pistols)

it looks closer to a type 94 then it does a type 14( AKA nambu)

I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: please help to identify
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2010, 07:23:52 PM »
Crude homemade Eastern Bloc, or Turkish, Yugo, Czech,....

We have yet to be totally stumped here at DRTV, but you may be close... ::)

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